[pct-l] Scott & Joe update

[Tortoise]

>
>  
> No hiker deserves his hike to be criticized by other hikers.
Says who? Why is anyone exempted from criticism?
If a hiker leaves a mess, should we not criticize him?
If you tout a hike is touted as an accomplishment deserving of praise, 
are others then barred from criticizing?

You are the one who has made such a big deal of Scott and Joe's hike and 
their going for a record.
You are the one who is impugning other peoples motives and making ad 
hominem attacks.

Tortoise

<> He who finishes last, wins! <>



Reinhold Metzger wrote:
> Kerry,
> You have a point, everybody has a right to disagree.
> There is a difference, however, between disagreeing and grumbling and criticizing. 
> No hiker deserves his hike to be criticized by other hikers.
> Just like there being more than one opinion there are more ways than one to hike the trail.
> It has been my observation that every time a hiker like Scott, Joe, Brian or Michael goes on a 
> speed hike it evokes a lot of criticism from a certain segment on this list who can not 
> understand why anybody in his right mind would want to speed through a pristine wilderness and 
> how they can not possibly enjoy their hike.
> In my mind they are hypocrites for thinking their way of hiking is the only proper way to hike 
> and enjoy the trail.
> They embrace the HYOH principle but only if it's based on their own hiking criteria.
>
> Other hikers have hiked through trail closures, but the ones that get slammed and criticized are
> the speed hikers because their speed hiking is frowned upon by those certain elements....you can  
> slam me if you want to....but if you slam my buddies, I will speak up.
> That is the only reason Scott and Joe have been singled out for criticism.
>
> STILL SEEMS LIKE SOUR GRAPES TO ME.....you know, short ones envy tall ones.....slow ones envy
> fast ones.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Your slow, short trail companion.
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Kerry wrote:
> rheinhold, you are a backbone of this list. But it is wrong to call people 
> who disagree with you "grumblers." Nobody comes down on you for being the 
> Scott and joe marching and chowder society. Sour grapes are not involved. 
> Individuality is. There is always more than one opinion, yours (or mine) is 
> certainly not always correct.
>            Kerry,
>               Covina Ca
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Reinhold Metzger" <reinholdmetzger at cox.net <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
> To: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:33 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Scott & Joe update
>
>
>   
>> / Joe has wrenched his knee, but they are still getting their miles and
>>     
> />/ plan on reaching Stevens Pass Wednesday (tomorrow)  between 4-6 PM and
> />/ the monument the evening of August 18 around 8 PM.
> />/ For those still grumbling about them hiking through a fire closure be
> />/ reminded that they encountered fire fighters and Rangers
> />/ in the closed area, were not issued any citations but were given the OK
> />/ and blessings to continue.
> />/ If the authorities gave their OK and blessings to continue they must
> />/ have felt the conditions were safe enough to do so.
> />/ The authorities have the last word and they have spoken......so what is
> />/ the problem?
> />/ Could the problem be sour grapes?
> />/ I say swallow those sour grapes and join Andrea's  party tomorrow at
> />/ Stevens Pass or join them at the Monument on the 18th
> />/ to congratulate them for their tremendous achievement.
> />/
> />/ JMT Reinhold
> />/ _______________________________________________
> />
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