[pct-l] clothing question

Mon Jan 14 13:16:15 CST 2008

Great point about cold being a relative and personal thing. In general, women tend to get cold much easier than men. I've camped with a guy who had the same sleeping bag I did. I had the hood cinched down to a breathing port and still wasn't quite warm enough while the guy had the bag unzipped and whined about being hot. I have a 15 degree bag and on cold, rainy days, it takes me a long time to get warm, even inside the bag while wearing thermals and a hat. 

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From: "Donna Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> Being cold is a relative and very personal thing, and Steel-Eye is one tough
> son-of-a-gun by anyone’s standards (my hat’s off to ya, Steel-Eye!).  He
> also came through in the driest and warmest season on record.  I’ve spoken
> to others, women in particular, who found our local mountains and the
> deserts at night to be very cold.  Some have even bordered on hypothermia,
> particularly early-season hikers who were caught in late spring storms.  
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> Know yourself.  Watch the conditions.  Be prepared.
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> L-Rod
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> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Steel-Eye
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:10 AM
> To: David Stewart; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] clothing question
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> Good morning, Moondog,
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> I haven’t found the PCT to be particularly cold in the hiking season.  Frost
> in the morning and occasional light snowfall aren’t uncommon, but that’s
> nothing for an active hiker.  All I use is: 1) a poly tee shirt, 2) a
> 200-weight, pull-over fleece shirt/jacket, and 3) a thin, hooded windshirt.
> The jacket is an off-brand that I bought on sale for about $10. and it
> weighs 10.5 oz.  The GoLite Ether windshirt weighs 3.0 oz.  Wearing both,
> I’m comfortable until I warm up on the trail.  Soon, first the wind shirt
> comes off, then later the fleece.  During a break the windshirt goes back
> on.  Examples of that can be seen at: 
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> HYPERLINK
> "http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye"http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-e
> ye on the entries for 5 & 6 June, except in that on the 6th the windshirt
> was a Marmot rather than the GoLite.  I couldn’t do that with a Flight
> Jacket.  
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> I’d love to have a Flight Jacket, and several times I’ve come close to
> buying one since it weighs about the same as my fleece alone, but for me it
> would be too warm and I couldn’t get the same ventilation when layering.
> Besides, the Flight Jacket costs over $210. more than the cheap-o fleece.
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> I have three down jackets by other manufacturers, but in the more
> chronically wet areas …. like where I live in the Northwest …. they are
> usually too warm and they seem to get sopped around the shoulders under rain
> gear.  The fleece performs much better for me under those circumstances.
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> I have several vests, both fleece and down, but I don’t often take them on
> the trail.  My problem:  With advanced years I notice the cold on my arms
> more than I used to, so I like long sleeves.
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> Steel-Eye
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> ^^^^^^^^^^  Serious hikers gather at:  HYPERLINK
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: HYPERLINK "mailto:davidalexanderstewart at gmail.com"David Stewart 
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> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:pct-l at backcountry.net"pct-l at backcountry.net 
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> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:59 AM
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> Subject: [pct-l] clothing question
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> I am having some trouble deciding about an insulating layer. Everyone raves
> about the WM Flight Jacket. I have no doubts that that sucker is nice and
> warm. But I am a warm sleeper and generally warm all the time. I hardly ever
> use a 2nd layer while hiking, unless it is cold and raining. 
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> I will have two baselyer shirts with me, Marmot Precip Jacket and a TNF
> Windstopper Vest. I am debating to go with the WM Flash vest, or the Flight
> vest. I could imagine the Flight Jacket being simply too warm, except
> perhaps in the Sierras (but there is some 2300 other miles of trails to
> carry the jacket...). 
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> Layer up? or is it really that cold?
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> my bag will be the WM Summerlite. 
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> one last question to ponder: Is anyone slicker than Tom Brady? seriously.
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> -moondog
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