[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
Susan Alcorn
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Sun Mar 2 18:09:24 CST 2008
Someone wants tyvek. You might let people know you have some, if you want to deal with it.
Me again
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> Subject: Pct-l Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
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> 1. Tyvek (adam urrutia)
> 2. Re: Oregon-California Border by Road (Steel-Eye)
> 3. Re: FW: PCT and AT Trail Angels (Donna Saufley)
> 4. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner (Bill
> Batchelor)
> 5. Re: FW: PCT and AT Trail Angels (Andrea Dinsmore)
> 6. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner
> (Andrea Dinsmore)
> 7. Idiots and Angels (Rod Belshee)
> 8. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner (robo
> hiker)
> 9. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner
> (Slyatpct at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner (robo
> hiker)
> 11. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner
> (Slyatpct at aol.com)
> 12. rides in norther ca/souther or (jomike at cot.net)
> 13. Re: rides in norther ca/souther or (Slyatpct at aol.com)
> 14. Re: Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner (robo
> hiker)
> 15. Re: rides in norther ca/souther or (Randy Forsland)
> 16. Re: rides in norther ca/souther or (jomike at cot.net)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:32:51 -0800 (PST)
> From: adam urrutia <adam_urrutia at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Tyvek
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> You can get Tyvek at www.Antigravitygear.com for $2 per
> linear foot.
> http://www.antigravitygear.com/products.php?cat=73&pg=2
> to be exact. It comes on a 9 foot roll, so if you want 5
> feet by 9 feet you pay $10. Not sure if it is type 10 or
> type 14.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:33:47 -0800
> From: "Steel-Eye" <chelin at teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon-California Border by Road
> To: "Holly Hein"
> <hollyhein at gmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <010d01c87c9c$57107d60$d6baf204 at DF504N31>
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> Good morning, GrrlPup,
>
> I've been on the road system you describe a number of
> times, and based upon
> my recollection and a quick review of the maps, the
> directions seem correct.
> In spite of its rather ominous sound, those
> "unpaved" roads are all-weather
> roads, i.e. gravel surfaced, and just about any average
> passenger can
> negotiate them provided there are no localized problems
> such as slides,
> washouts, or downed timber. It would be good to contact
> the responsible
> USFS District office prior to departure to get a road
> status report.
>
> I don't know what experience you, or your chauffer,
> have with these kinds of
> roads, but here are a few things to consider:
>
> - Most of those roads are now called "forest access
> roads", which is a
> relatively new, politically correct way of saying
> "timber access" or
> "logging roads". As such, there may be logging
> truck and/or heavy equipment
> traffic. Just be alert: Those things can't stop or
> maneuver out of the way
> of a little Toyota sedan as quickly as you may like,
> particularly on hills
> and around some of those sharp switchback corners.
>
> - If there are logging operations in the area you will
> probably see
> evidence
> of recent, heavy road usage. In one regard that's good
> because those roads
> will have been opened and maintained that summer, while
> other less-used
> roads may not.
>
> - Also, if there are logging operations off one of the
> numerous side roads,
> the heavy traffic can make that side road look like the
> main road you're
> trying to follow.
>
> - It would be helpful if you had GPS coordinates of the
> main turn points.
>
> - Pay attention during the return trip. The roads and
> turns look different
> coming from the other direction.
>
> - September may well be fire season, and it's possible
> the roads could be
> gated. Be sure to ask the FS office about closures.
>
> - Start with a full tank of gas.
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^ Serious hikers gather at:
> http://www.aldhawest.org/ ^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Holly Hein" <hollyhein at gmail.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:29 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Oregon-California Border by Road
>
>
> > Re: Oregon Section Hiking
> >
> > These are the driving directions to the OR-CA border
> that I pieced
> > together from maps and day-hiking books. WARNING: I
> haven't tried them
> > out, so comments and corrections will be met with
> gratitude! I'll be
> > going in early September, so snow shouldn't be a
> problem.
> >
> >>From Medford (north of Ashland on I-5), take OR238
> Jacksonville Hwy
> > through Jacksonville, then southwest 7 miles to Ruch.
> >
> > Fork left (south) on Upper Applegate Road. After nine
> miles, branch
> > left (east) onto unpaved FS 20, aka Beaver Creek Road.
> Drive 14.5
> > miles to Silver Fork Gap.
> >
> > Go left/southeast/downhill on FS 2025, signed for
> Donomore Meadows.
> > Drive 4.1 miles to where PCT crosses at saddle. Walk
> right (south) on
> > PCT about a quarter mile to the register at the
> border.
> >
> > If anyone can confirm the roads are okay for a little
> Toyota sedan,
> > I'd be grateful. :)
> >
> > --grrlpup
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:36:00 -0800
> From: "Donna Saufley"
> <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] FW: PCT and AT Trail Angels
> To: <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Slyatpct at aol.com
> Message-ID:
> <004b01c87c9c$a5768710$6501a8c0 at MainMachine>
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>
> Yes, and other hikers need to stiffen their backbones and
> call out hikers
> who are behaving badly, even though that goes against the
> grain for most
> people on a thru-hike.
>
>
>
> Silence implies consent.
>
>
>
> L-Rod
>
> _____
>
> From: Andrea Dinsmore [mailto:zaqueltooocool at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:51 AM
> To: Donna Saufley
> Cc: Slyatpct at aol.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] FW: PCT and AT Trail Angels
>
>
>
> You are right with your thoughts. Doesn't hurt to
> educate the new ones. With
> any luck the seasoned hikers will help remind the selfish
> ones on the
> responsible way they should be acting. Can't hurt. If
> it's not discussed it
> will become accepted behavior. You know how
> "kids" push the limits with
> their parents. It's only human nature..........:)
>
>
>
> Hugs,
>
>
>
> Andrea
>
> 2008/3/2 Donna Saufley <HYPERLINK
> "mailto:dsaufley at sprynet.com"dsaufley at sprynet.com>:
>
> It doesn't really matter what forum it is . . . even if
> those who need to
> hear the message are at the KO, on this list-post, or
> anywhere else, they
> won't pay attention and don't think the message
> applies to them. The people
> who don't really need to hear it will be the ones
> paying rapt attention. We
> can talk and write about it all we want, but it's human
> nature and the law
> of averages at work.
>
>
>
> L-Rod
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:37:39 -0800
> From: "Bill Batchelor" <billbatch at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To:
> <Slyatpct at aol.com>, <robohiker at hotmail.com>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> I can see Elevator's point. I think they give special
> rates because they
> know that the hiker is on a very tight budget, and is
> obviously not
> generating income for some time to come. They want to help
> them along the
> way. So, with that in mind a hiker helper does not
> equate.
>
> On the other hand, Warner's discount motivation might
> also be that promoting
> hiker friendly and discounts is excellent for business.
> Since 80+% of
> Warner's business is weekend based - especially before
> school is out - it
> must be great to have rooms filled Sunday through Thursday
> as hikers arrive
> any day. If that is the motivation, then Switch may be
> okay. Considering
> he would not be there were it not for the hikers and he is
> staying on the
> off-nights.
>
> I will bet if he said, " I am a trail volunteer
> helping to get the hikers
> around. Would it be possible to get the hiker rate?"
> I suspect they would
> say yes.
>
> How boring am I walking the middle road.
>
> _____
>
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Slyatpct at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:20 AM
> To: robohiker at hotmail.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
>
>
> In a message dated 3/2/2008 1:46:15 PM Eastern Standard
> Time,
> robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
>
> So if someone says something they'd be lord of the
> board?
>
> I don't see a problem with a hiker (who's helping
> hikers, same as Warner
> Springs) getting hiker rates.
>
> If you're only doing a section, can you get the same
> rate? What if I get
> off in Idylwild due to injury, should I return money?
>
> Sly
>
>
> i thought the same thing but was afraid of getting
> chastized by the "lords
> of the boards" for saying so.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
>
>
> This is simply amazing! This is the sense of entitlement
> that seems to be
> so prevelent today.
>
> Switchback, you are not thru-hiking, so why take advantage
> of an offer that
> this wonderful resort is providing to the thru-hikers?
> That's BS.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the
> video on AOL
> Living.
> <http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du
> ffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:39:50 -0800
> From: "Andrea Dinsmore"
> <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] FW: PCT and AT Trail Angels
> To: "Donna Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Slyatpct at aol.com
> Message-ID:
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>
> My thoughts exactly..........
>
>
> PCT MOM
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Donna Saufley
> <dsaufley at sprynet.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, and other hikers need to stiffen their backbones
> and call out hikers
> > who are behaving badly, even though that goes against
> the grain for most
> > people on a thru-hike.
> >
> >
> >
> > Silence implies consent.
> >
> >
> >
> > L-Rod
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Andrea Dinsmore
> [mailto:zaqueltooocool at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:51 AM
> > *To:* Donna Saufley
> > *Cc:* Slyatpct at aol.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
> > *Subject:* Re: [pct-l] FW: PCT and AT Trail Angels
> >
> >
> >
> > You are right with your thoughts. Doesn't hurt to
> educate the new ones.
> > With any luck the seasoned hikers will help remind the
> selfish ones on the
> > responsible way they should be acting. Can't hurt.
> If it's not discussed it
> > will become accepted behavior. You know how
> "kids" push the limits with
> > their parents. It's only human nature..........:)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hugs,
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> > 2008/3/2 Donna Saufley <dsaufley at sprynet.com>:
> >
> > It doesn't really matter what forum it is . . .
> even if those who need to
> > hear the message are at the KO, on this list-post, or
> anywhere else, they
> > won't pay attention and don't think the
> message applies to them. The people
> > who don't really need to hear it will be the ones
> paying rapt attention. We
> > can talk and write about it all we want, but it's
> human nature and the law
> > of averages at work.
> >
> >
> >
> > L-Rod
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > 3:59 PM
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:56:16 -0800
> From: "Andrea Dinsmore"
> <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To: "Donna Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Slyatpct at aol.com
> Message-ID:
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> As Donna said........you never really know who you are
> dealing with on the
> trail. Could be an FBI agent (don't snicker)....could
> be a neurosurgeon,
> could be an attorney, maybe a teacher....could be some one
> who owns a horse
> ranch. But then it could be a couple who put all their
> belongings in storage
> and quit their jobs to go hike. Might be someones granddad.
> Might be the guy whose life is hiking and can afford to be
> out there anytime
> he wants.
>
> PCT MOM
>
> 2008/3/2 Donna Saufley <dsaufley at sprynet.com>:
>
> > Well, you do all smell, but the poor thing only
> applies to a percentage,
> > not all. There are folks that could buy some of the
> towns they pass through
> > on the trail. That's what I love about how the
> trail is "The Great
> > Equalizer." You just can't tell
> someone's economic status once they've been
> > on the trail for a few days, unless of course they
> tell you, but it all
> > becomes pretty irrelevant after a while.
> >
> >
> >
> > L-Rod
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> > pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Batchelor
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:24 AM
> > *To:* Slyatpct at aol.com; robohiker at hotmail.com;
> pct-l at backcountry.net
> > *Subject:* Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs
> Resort Dinner
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought "I am a thru hiker" was just code
> at Warner Springs that
> > trnaslates to "I smell and I am poor".
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> > pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Slyatpct at aol.com
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:20 AM
> > *To:* robohiker at hotmail.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
> > *Subject:* Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs
> Resort Dinner
> >
> > In a message dated 3/2/2008 1:46:15 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > So if someone says something they'd be lord of
> the board?
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't see a problem with a hiker (who's
> helping hikers, same as Warner
> > Springs) getting hiker rates.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you're only doing a section, can you get the
> same rate? What if I get
> > off in Idylwild due to injury, should I return money?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > i thought the same thing but was afraid of getting
> chastized by the
> > "lords of the boards" for saying so.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs
> Resort Dinner
> >
> > This is simply amazing! This is the sense of
> entitlement that seems to be
> > so prevelent today.
> >
> >
> >
> > Switchback, you are not thru-hiking, so why take
> advantage of an offer
> > that this wonderful resort is providing to the
> thru-hikers? That's BS.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch
> the video on AOL
> >
> Living.<http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:12:22 -0800
> From: "Rod Belshee" <rbelshee at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Idiots and Angels
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I had the "pleasure" of calming down one generous
> trail supporter who runs a business near the trail and
> accepts hiker packages. When some previous hikers came
> through they decided that he and his business were putting
> too much load on the trail, and chose to lecture him
> pointedly in front of his customers. He tried to move the
> conversation outside, but they insisted on raising their
> voices and lecturing him about LNT in his place of
> business. Good grief! What idiots! Another hiker not far
> behind me also spent a couple of hours trying to "mend
> fences" and together we convinced him that any crowd
> has a few idiots and thru-hikers are no exception, and not
> to judge us all by the behavior of a few.
>
> That said, I think thru-hikers will greatly benefit the
> thru-hiker community if when you discover these kinds of
> things you do whatever it takes to make it right for our
> supporters, even if that means some expense of time, money
> or humility. I get very irate at the
> "entitlement" attitude of some hikers. I advocate
> the opposite; be gracious when receiving trail magic, and be
> ready and willing to pay it back by cleaning up the messes
> from the few idiots among us.
>
> And I certainly would warn any angels up the trail about
> idiots behind me.
>
> Steady
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:23:42 +0000
> From: robo hiker <robohiker at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To: <slyatpct at aol.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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>
> first off i'm not here to argue. i also think it's
> not based on what anyone but the operater/owner of the
> establishment thinks. that being said it might be more
> curtious to state ones intentions when asking for a
> discount and see what they say. i'm thinking if
> it's said that the discount is for current year
> thru-hikers that that's the standard in which they
> determine who gets it and who doesn't, if the rules are
> to be bent or slightly modified it should be by the owners,
> not by any "posers" but hey, that's just me
> thinking / speculating here. i'm sure that every
> thru-hiker starts out with the intention of completing
> their trip when they ask for the discount, and the owner
> knows full well it's a long haul to canada and that
> anything can happen after they leave the facility.
>
>
>
> From: Slyatpct at aol.comDate: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:20:04
> -0500Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs
> Resort DinnerTo: robohiker at hotmail.com;
> pct-l at backcountry.net
>
>
> In a message dated 3/2/2008 1:46:15 PM Eastern Standard
> Time, robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
>
> So if someone says something they'd be lord of the
> board?
>
> I don't see a problem with a hiker (who's helping
> hikers, same as Warner Springs) getting hiker rates.
>
> If you're only doing a section, can you get the same
> rate? What if I get off in Idylwild due to injury, should
> I return money?
>
> Sly
>
>
> i thought the same thing but was afraid of getting
> chastized by the "lords of the boards" for
> saying so.
>
>
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.netSubject: Re: [pct-l]
> Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort Dinner
> This is simply amazing! This is the sense of entitlement
> that seems to be so prevelent today.
>
> Switchback, you are not thru-hiking, so why take advantage
> of an offer that this wonderful resort is providing to the
> thru-hikers? That's BS.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:36:38 EST
> From: Slyatpct at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To: robohiker at hotmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <d07.282ef950.34fc69d6 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
>
> i'm sure that every thru-hiker starts out with the
> intention of completing
> their trip when they ask for the discount, and the owner
> knows full well it's
> a long haul to canada and that anything can happen after
> they leave the
> facility.
>
>
>
> -----------------------
>
> Yeah I know I just think thought it was ironic that
> Elevator was pointing
> out Switichback's sense of entitlement, but brought up
> thru-hiking. Most of
> my hikes, (contrary to rumor, I've only thru-hiked the
> CDT) have been long
> sections of a thousand miles or more. If there's a
> special rate for hikers,
> I'm going to ask.
>
> Sly
>
>
>
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> AOL Living.
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:43:21 +0000
> From: robo hiker <robohiker at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To: <slyatpct at aol.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <BAY132-W2FC1B4E022BA443E14096A2160 at phx.gbl>
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>
> o.k. there are exceptions,but they should be made by the
> owner as i previously stated., for example as you know if
> one has hiked the entire 100 mile wilderness in maine they
> get the same status as a thru-hiker at the birches. to me
> it's simple, if i think i'm trying to "get
> away with something" i probably am. all the best
>
>
> From: Slyatpct at aol.comDate: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:36:38
> -0500Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs
> Resort DinnerTo: robohiker at hotmail.com;
> pct-l at backcountry.net
>
>
> robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
> i'm sure that every thru-hiker starts out with the
> intention of completing their trip when they ask for the
> discount, and the owner knows full well it's a long
> haul to canada and that anything can happen after they
> leave the facility.
>
> -----------------------
>
> Yeah I know I just think thought it was ironic that
> Elevator was pointing out Switichback's sense of
> entitlement, but brought up thru-hiking. Most of my
> hikes, (contrary to rumor, I've only thru-hiked the
> CDT) have been long sections of a thousand miles or more.
> If there's a special rate for hikers, I'm going to
> ask.
>
> Sly
>
>
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the
> video on AOL Living.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:52:13 EST
> From: Slyatpct at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To: robohiker at hotmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <c0d.2813eb47.34fc6d7d at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> , robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
>
> o.k. there are exceptions.....
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> One last word. In Yogi's book it says "discounts
> to PCT Hikers". No
> mention of what type of hiker they are.
>
> Sly
>
>
>
> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on
> AOL Living.
> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:53:07 -0800
> From: <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] rides in norther ca/souther or
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <5D105CCA10E146DCB61DDDD2F45C9F8F at arewethereyePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Even being on a highway, Seiad Valley is not exactly the
> easiest place to
> get a ride to either. For practical purposes, I suggest
> you start where the
> PCT crosses I-5 at Siskiyou Summit.
> **********************************************************
>
> Not true. I'm here for the asking. Can get you to
> Siskiyou Summit and/or Seiad Valley. It's what I do up
> here. I too am a trail angel.
>
> are we there yet
> 530-905-0507
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:59:42 EST
> From: Slyatpct at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] rides in norther ca/souther or
> To: jomike at cot.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <cfe.2817c182.34fc6f3e at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> In a message dated 3/2/2008 3:54:11 PM Eastern Standard
> Time, jomike at cot.net
> writes:
>
> I too am a trail angel.
>
>
>
> -----------------
>
> Yes, you are! Thanks for the help the 1st time around.
>
> Sly
>
>
>
> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on
> AOL Living.
> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:00:35 +0000
> From: robo hiker <robohiker at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs Resort
> Dinner
> To: <slyatpct at aol.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <BAY132-W500BAAF0FD4A7BCF3175D8A2160 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> fair enough
>
>
> From: Slyatpct at aol.comDate: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:52:13
> -0500Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kickoff & Warner Springs
> Resort DinnerTo: robohiker at hotmail.com;
> pct-l at backcountry.net
>
>
> , robohiker at hotmail.com writes:
> o.k. there are exceptions.....
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> One last word. In Yogi's book it says "discounts
> to PCT Hikers". No mention of what type of hiker they
> are.
>
> Sly
>
>
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the
> video on AOL Living.
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:18:17 -0800
> From: Randy Forsland <randy_forsland at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] rides in norther ca/souther or
> To: <jomike at cot.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <BAY117-W4253FE590788384C62C82AFF160 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> great to hear that there are some Trail Angels in that
> area. I had heard that True North was moving farther North
> and I didn't know if there were others in that region.
>
> i'm also planning on hiking from Ashland to Cascade
> Locks somewhere near the end of August and I need to ask a
> question or two.
>
> Does anybody know where there is a good spot in the general
> Ashland area to stash your vehicle for a few weeks ?? i plan
> on taking my commuter "beater" car up there so I
> am not too afraid of minor incidental damage to it, but I
> would really like it to be in servicable condition when I
> return...
>
> Anybody have any insight to where i could leave it ??
>
> thanks in advance
>
> couchman
>
>
> From: jomike at cot.netTo: pct-l at backcountry.netDate: Sun, 2
> Mar 2008 12:53:07 -0800Subject: [pct-l] rides in norther
> ca/souther or
>
>
>
> Even being on a highway, Seiad Valley is not exactly the
> easiest place toget a ride to either. For practical
> purposes, I suggest you start where thePCT crosses I-5 at
> Siskiyou Summit.
> **********************************************************
>
> Not true. I'm here for the asking. Can get you to
> Siskiyou Summit and/or Seiad Valley. It's what I do up
> here. I too am a trail angel.
>
> are we there yet
> 530-905-0507
> _________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:46:27 -0800
> From: <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] rides in norther ca/souther or
> To: "Randy Forsland"
> <randy_forsland at hotmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <CE3F7A1E6FAE49EC8DDD0BD1F7FB589B at arewethereyePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sure, the pcta regional employee in that area is Ian Nelson
> inelson at pcta.org. Send him an e-mail and either he would be
> able to help with information or should know who can. Not
> only is this Ian's area, he lives in Ashland.
>
> are we there yet
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy Forsland
> To: jomike at cot.net ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] rides in norther ca/souther or
>
>
> great to hear that there are some Trail Angels in that
> area. I had heard that True North was moving farther North
> and I didn't know if there were others in that region.
>
> i'm also planning on hiking from Ashland to Cascade
> Locks somewhere near the end of August and I need to ask a
> question or two.
>
> Does anybody know where there is a good spot in the
> general Ashland area to stash your vehicle for a few weeks
> ?? i plan on taking my commuter "beater" car up
> there so I am not too afraid of minor incidental damage to
> it, but I would really like it to be in servicable
> condition when I return...
>
> Anybody have any insight to where i could leave it ??
>
> thanks in advance
>
> couchman
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: jomike at cot.net
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:53:07 -0800
> Subject: [pct-l] rides in norther ca/souther or
>
>
> Even being on a highway, Seiad Valley is not exactly
> the easiest place to
> get a ride to either. For practical purposes, I
> suggest you start where the
> PCT crosses I-5 at Siskiyou Summit.
>
> **********************************************************
>
> Not true. I'm here for the asking. Can get you to
> Siskiyou Summit and/or Seiad Valley. It's what I do up
> here. I too am a trail angel.
>
> are we there yet
> 530-905-0507
>
>
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