[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 3, Issue 35
William A. Chavez
wctrekker at dslextreme.com
Sat Mar 15 23:23:13 CDT 2008
Hi,
When we did the JMT I talked the the outfitters at Onion Valley and
they said they would hold a resupply box for us. Isn't it about 8-10
miles over Kearsarge Pass? I know that is a long way, I just offering
an option to VVR and MTR
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> 1. Subject: Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax (JOHNNY J FARBER)
> 2. RE Subject: Being 61 (JOHNNY J FARBER)
> 3. Re: Subject: Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax (AsABat)
> 4. Re: Subject: Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax (Andrea Dinsmore)
> 5. Re: Plugging through the Sierras? (Phil Baily)
> 6. Re: Plugging through the Sierras? (Scott Bryce)
> 7. back-less jacket? (gtoevan at gmx.net)
> 8. FOR SALE: Backpack, sleeping bag (Roger Carpenter)
> 9. Re: Plugging through the Sierras? (Randy Forsland)
> 10. Re: back-less jacket? (Marcia)
> 11. Re: Plugging through the Sierras? (joel01 at ekit.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:12:15 -0800
> From: "JOHNNY J FARBER" <farber51 at msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Subject: Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax
> To: <ksalmon at wesleyan.edu>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU132-DAV1922510394415E650B9C8C10B0 at phx.gbl>
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> Kathleen,
> My husband and I will be at the kickoff thursday and saturday and
> would be willing to give an ice axe lesson.
> We have climbed Mt. Rainier 25 times and have a lot of experience
> with steep snow.
> Ice axe arrest is something you need to practice until it is an
> automatic response.
> I read on this site that there is a video demonstration on the web.
> If you still want a lesson after you watch that let me know.
> Some one will need to bring an ice axe because mine will be in my
> Kennedy Meadows resupply box.
> Mom is right about being burnt thru clothes. You need to check
> the SPF of the things you'll wear to be protected.
> Also a reflective umbrella is great and keeps you cooler.
> Good luck Sharon "FREE" and John "EZgoing" Farber PCT 2208
> www.trailjournals.com/FREEandEZgoing<http://www.trailjournals.com/
> FREEandEZgoing>
>
>
> original message:
> From: "Kathleen Salmon"
> <ksalmon at wesleyan.edu<mailto:ksalmon at wesleyan.edu>>
> Subject: [pct-l] Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net<mailto:pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <4222.71.187.57.125.1205550075.squirrel at webmail.wesleyan.edu<mailto:
> 4222.71.187.57.125.1205550075.squirrel at webmail.wesleyan.edu>>
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> Dear All,
>
> I apologize if you have received this already...my account was acting
> funny...
>
> Is the desert sun too strong to block UV rays with light clothing?
> I was
> planning on covering up completely in a lightweight wick material.
> My mom
> thought pointed out that I could still be burned through my clothes.
> Thoughts?
>
> Is there any one who would be willing to give an ice ax lesson at the
> kickoff?
>
> Thanks!
> Kathleen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:44:12 -0800
> From: "JOHNNY J FARBER" <farber51 at msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] RE Subject: Being 61
> To: <wctrekker at dslextreme.com>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU132-DAV12B9480E7384BBB37E6BFBC10B0 at phx.gbl>
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> Hi Bill,
> EZ and I are 62 so here's my 2 cents. First what kind of surfaces
> are you training on? If you're hiking on pavement get off it onto
> the sholder or grass. Hard surfaces are jolting to the legs and
> don't strenghten the feet and legs for the uneven surfaces of the
> trail. Second, be sure your shoes offer support. Shoes are
> supposed to be good for 500 miles, but can break down before that.
> Third, get some superfeet from REI. If your feet aren't supported
> there is extra stress on the knees. Fourth, strenghten those knees
> with leg extensions--3-4 sets of 12 to 20 every day 3xweek. Fifth,
> stretch, stretch, stretch. Stretch before, during and after
> training. As muscles get stronger they shorten and this puts
> stress on the knee and other joints. Sixth, I've used a neoprene
> brace for support if something hurts and after a few days the
> injured area heals. Hope this helps---Sharon "FREE' Farber
>
> original message
> Hello,
>
> I am new at this so forgive my transgressions. I plan to hike in '09
> and I am really hoping that this old body(I'll be 61) will make it.
> Even though my knees are creaky the Dr says they should make the
> milage. I have been doing 15 mi on the weekends and I feel pretty
> sore afterwards. I exercise on a regular basis so I am a bit
> disheartened. I plan on doing 20 mi. days once on the trail so I am a
> little nervous. Perhaps you guys can offer some advice to help me get
> ready for my trip? Will there be suggestions made at ADZPCTKO?
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:37:05 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Subject: Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax
> To: "'JOHNNY J FARBER'" <farber51 at msn.com>, <ksalmon at wesleyan.edu>
> Cc: 'pct-l' <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <002e01c886cb$914e4cd0$7901010a at PC8>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> ADZ at least tentatively has a snow travel safety presentation set up,
> as they have the last several years.
>
> AsABat
>
>> My husband and I will be at the kickoff thursday and saturday and
> would be
>> willing to give an ice axe lesson.
>> We have climbed Mt. Rainier 25 times and have a lot of experience
> with
>> steep snow.
>> Ice axe arrest is something you need to practice until it is an
> automatic
>> response.
>> I read on this site that there is a video demonstration on the web.
>> If you still want a lesson after you watch that let me know.
>> Some one will need to bring an ice axe because mine will be in my
> Kennedy
>> Meadows resupply box.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:56:36 -0700
> From: "Andrea Dinsmore" <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Subject: Sunscreen vs. Clothes / Ice Ax
> To: AsABat <AsABat at 4jeffrey.net>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>, JOHNNY J FARBER <farber51 at msn.com>,
> ksalmon at wesleyan.edu
> Message-ID:
> <f2a521470803151156k784c8ceas7aaab3e640dc700f at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Make sure and remind the new crew at KO about the past trail damage
> that has
> not been repaired yet here in the North Cascades of Washington. We
> still
> have around 10' of snow up at 4,000'. No one has been able to get
> in to the
> trail to check for new damage or repair what's left over from last
> year.
>
> PCT MOM
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:58:13 -0800
> From: Phil Baily <pbaily at webuniverse.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plugging through the Sierras?
> To: Arno Holschuh <affenmensch at hotmail.com>,pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <auto-000133150440 at vel.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> A less used option is to mail a package to John Muir Ranch. As of 2-3
> years ago, they held packages for a fee. They are only about a mile
> off the PCT. I don't think you can use their hot springs unless you
> stay there, but very close to them, you can wade across the fork of
> the San Joaquin and soak in un-improved natural hot springs. I think
> they are called Blayney Hot Springs, if my memory is right. There are
> lots of good camping spots between the PCT and the ranch, or near the
> ranch or river. The only drawback may be the fee, which is probably
> larger than others levy. Just north of the Sequoia-King's Canyon Park
> northern boundary, there is a trail going west to Lake Florence; they
> are on that trail.
>
> Pieces
>
>
> At 05:39 PM 3/14/08, you wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>> When I did CA in 2002, I plowed through from Kennedy meadows to VVR
>> without resupply. I lost five pounds (that's not pack weight, yo)
>> and spent a fortune on 5-egg breakfasts at VVR when I arrived, but I
>> liked not having to stop off and hike so far off-trail.
>>
>> This year there is more snow (probably) and I'm not as young, dumb
>> and full of... pee and vinegar as I once was. What are members of
>> this year's crop considering? I see the convenience of a resupply,
>> but also reallyliked being the human version of those trucks headed
>> for the border in the 70s classic "Convoy": I just kept on going,
>> nothing could slow me, until I hit... that horseshoe paradise at VVR.
>>
>> Arno
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:09:30 -0600
> From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plugging through the Sierras?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Phil Baily wrote:
>> A less used option is to mail a package to John Muir Ranch.
>
> <snip>
>
>> The only drawback may be the fee, which is probably larger than
>> others levy.
>
> Quite a bit larger. $50.00 per package.
>
> http://www.muirtrailranch.com/resupply.html
>
> But someone else pointed out that if you take the ferry both ways to
> VVR, it will cost $38 to pick up your resupply there. ($9 x 2 for the
> ferry + $15 for the package.) On top of that, food prices at VVR are
> quite high, due to the trouble it takes to get the food to the resort.
> It isn't unusual to spend $100 or more at VVR for a one-night stay.
>
> This makes MTR look like a viable option in spite of the cost.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:39:11 +0100
> From: gtoevan at gmx.net
> Subject: [pct-l] back-less jacket?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20080315193911.117320 at gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> While hiking last summer I thought up the idea of a jacket (fleece
> or insulating) without a back. I was cold without my jacket, but
> when I put my jacket on, my back was very hot and it exacerbated
> the sweating problem.
>
> Has anyone ever tried using a back-less jacket? How did it work? I
> figure if I bring only a backless insulating jacket, most of the
> time I will have my backpack on or be lying on foam insulation in
> my back so it shouldn't make too much of a difference.
>
> Evan
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:02:40 -0700
> From: "Roger Carpenter" <rogercarpenter at comcast.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] FOR SALE: Backpack, sleeping bag
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: "Conover, Scott" <ConoverS at hsd.k12.or.us>
> Message-ID: <HBENICOAECJDPAAFJPCMMECJCLAA.rogercarpenter at comcast.net>
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> FOR SALE:
>
> ULA Catalyst backpack, size large, like new???????$145
> Campmor 20 degree mummy bag, long, wt. 39oz., like new?$50
> Contact Scott Conover directly at (503) 648-7551 evenings or
> conovers at hsd.k12.or.us
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:20:24 -0700
> From: Randy Forsland <randy_forsland at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plugging through the Sierras?
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY117-W5171D23F30F9897F769152FF0B0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Just to clarify...The ferry costs $15 for a round trip ticket. ..so
> the cost is $30.00 to pick up a package. VVR also includes a free
> beverage and one night's lodging in a tent cabin in that deal...
>
> Couchman> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:09:30 -0600> From:
> sbryce at scottbryce.com> To: pct-l at backcountry.net> Subject: Re: [pct-
> l] Plugging through the Sierras?> > Phil Baily wrote:> > A less
> used option is to mail a package to John Muir Ranch.> > <snip>> > >
> The only drawback may be the fee, which is probably larger than> >
> others levy.> > Quite a bit larger. $50.00 per package.> > http://
> www.muirtrailranch.com/resupply.html> > But someone else pointed
> out that if you take the ferry both ways to> VVR, it will cost $38
> to pick up your resupply there. ($9 x 2 for the> ferry + $15 for
> the package.) On top of that, food prices at VVR are> quite high,
> due to the trouble it takes to get the food to the resort.> It
> isn't unusual to spend $100 or more at VVR for a one-night stay.> >
> This makes MTR look like a viable option in spite of the cost.>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:33:33 -0700
> From: "Marcia" <gottawalk at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] back-less jacket?
> To: <gtoevan at gmx.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <003201c886e4$3923c490$6601a8c0 at Desktop2006>
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> Just take your fleece and slip it on backwards over your arms and
> front...easy on and off while you walk.
> GottaWalk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gtoevan at gmx.net>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:39 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] back-less jacket?
>
> Has anyone ever tried using a back-less jacket?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:40:33 +0000
> From: joel01 at ekit.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plugging through the Sierras?
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <1205617233.47dc425179968 at www.lonelyplanet.ekit.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Getting back to the original question...
>
> Muir Trail Ranch is about a day's walk from VVR. I also preferred to
> stay in the mountains and not take any of the passes to the "trail
> towns" 20-30 odd miles away. You can mail a bucket to MTR but you
> cannot purchase food there.
>
> That would be your only standard option for a "near-trail" resupply
> other than VVR. So you get to carry a bit less food from Kennedy
> Meadows, but it could still be a good 8 to 10 days to MTR. Of
> course, whether or not you go up Whitney makes a difference too.
>
>
> Joel (aka Vlad the Impaler)
>
>
>
> It was then I knew I'd had enough,
> Burned my credit card for fuel
> Headed out to where the pavement turns to sand - Neil Young
>
>
>
>
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