[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 4, Issue 125
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Hey Everyone,
I had a great time at the Kick off. Thanks for all the tips on Backpacking.
I had a great time cooking. lol. Thank you Monty Tam. And I'll help next year. lol.
Well see you guys on the Trail.
Hike safe walk far
Eaglescout
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Today's Topics:
1. ADZ story in Today's San Diego Paper (Brick Robbins)
2. Contaminated water question (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
3. Section P (Raphael Bustin)
4. K O (Bill & Cathy)
5. 2008 ADZPCTKO (Paul Cronshaw)
6. Fire ? (Bill Batchelor)
7. Re: [PCT-L]Fire? (pct-l at mattmaxon.com)
8. Re: Contaminated water question (fdumville at earthlink.net)
9. Contaminated water question (Postholer)
10. Re: Contaminated water question (AsABat)
11. Re: Contaminated water question (Bob Bankhead)
12. Re: 2008 ADZPCTKO (arm chair)
13. ADZPCTKO (Bighummel at aol.com)
14. 2008 Kickoff After Action Report (Hiker97 at aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:03:35 -0700
From: "Brick Robbins" <brick at fastpack.com>
Subject: [pct-l] ADZ story in Today's San Diego Paper
To: "Pacific Crest Trail List" <pct-l at backcountry.net>, "Craig
Giffen" <cg at lunky.com>, "cora crary" <coracrary at gmail.com>
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080427-9999-1m27trail.html
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Brick Robbins
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:26:15 -0700
From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I think this is my last question before I'm on my way. When sources
say the water may be contaminated, what is it contaminated with? Does
this mean you can't even filter it?
Thanks.
Diane
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:56:09 -0400
From: Raphael Bustin <rafeb at speakeasy.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Section P
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Quick intro: completed AT last summer after about 30
years of section hikes (most distance covered more
recently than that...) Now setting my sights on the PCT.
I've done several thousand miles thru the woods here in
the east.... but very little out west.
My nephew and I have more or less decided on hiking
Section P (Castle Crags to Etna) in early August of this
summer (2008.)
So tell me all I need to know... hehe. I gather there's no
resupply between these two points. Do we need a bear
canister? Permits? Daily mileage? (I did 15 per day on
the AT last summer.) Useful "must have" guides and maps?
Any guess what will the water situation be like?
Thanks in advance...
rafe b
aka terrapin
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:33:26 -0700
From: "Bill & Cathy" <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
Subject: [pct-l] K O
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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"How's Your Trail"? Just Home from the KICK OFF "WOW" Ground Pounder
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:11:32 -0700
From: Paul Cronshaw <beemancron at hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] 2008 ADZPCTKO
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I have just returned from the KO. This is my first year attending this event,
its 10th. I enjoyed the events, and was very impressed with the organization.
The weather was perfect.
In case you did not get a chance to visit the KO at Lake Morena this year, here
are a few photos from my collection. Please let me know the names of the gear
contestants so I can put their names in the captions.
http://picasaweb.google.com/beemancron/2008ADZPCTKP
Click on SLIDESHOW.
Happy Trails to the Class of 2008.
Beeman
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:49:03 -0700
From: "Bill Batchelor" <billbatch at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Fire ?
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Anyone know if this fire is affecting the trail
Sierra Madre
http://sandiego.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximize
d&view=article&id=D90AE0Q80&_action=validatearticle
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:44:11 -0400
From: pct-l at mattmaxon.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] [PCT-L]Fire?
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In a word.... No
> Anyone know if this fire is affecting the trail
>
> Sierra Madre
>
> http://sandiego.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximize
> d&view=article&id=D90AE0Q80&_action=validatearticle
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:30:16 -0700
From: "fdumville at earthlink.net" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
To: "Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes"
<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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You will have to think about the context of the warning.
In most cases a government warning that the water "may be contaminated"
probably means the water just isn't tested and may or may not have your
typical biological contaminants. If it's referring to water near a mine
assume they're worried about chemical contaminants which require a filter
designed to handle chemicals. I forget where, but there's one spring in
SoCal that was tested and found to have a slightly high radioactive
contaminant content and was posted as such. Warnings about contamination
are because of cattle which would indicate biological contamination.
Snap
> [Original Message]
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: 4/27/2008 10:26:34 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
>
> I think this is my last question before I'm on my way. When sources
> say the water may be contaminated, what is it contaminated with? Does
> this mean you can't even filter it?
>
> Thanks.
> Diane
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:16:45 -0700
From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I forget where, but there's one spring in SoCal that was tested
> and found to have a slightly high radioactive contaminant content
> and was posted as such.
That is naturally occuring uranium around Chimney Creek/Campground water
sources I believe. It doesn't meet EPA standards. It's probably harmless in
the short term. However, your hiking partner will glow in the dark.
-postholer
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:56:07 -0700
From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Also Joshua Tree Spring IIRC.
AsABat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Postholer [mailto:public at postholer.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:17 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
>
> > I forget where, but there's one spring in SoCal that was tested
> > and found to have a slightly high radioactive contaminant content
> > and was posted as such.
>
> That is naturally occuring uranium around Chimney Creek/Campground
water
> sources I believe. It doesn't meet EPA standards. It's probably
harmless
> in
> the short term. However, your hiking partner will glow in the dark.
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:23:05 -0700
From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Bewary of the water at the bridge over the Kern River 11.5 miles north of
Kennedy Meadows. Last year, several through-hikers got sick shortly after
leaving KM. This was widely considered to be a likely source of the illnesses as
the swallows nest under the bridge supports - a likely cause for the poor water
quality.
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:54:35 -0700
From: "arm chair" <armchairhiker at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 2008 ADZPCTKO
To: pct-l at backcountry.net.
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I think this link works:
http://picasaweb.google.com/beemancron/2008ADZPCTKO
fun pictures,
Thanks Beeman!
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Paul Cronshaw <beemancron at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I have just returned from the KO. This is my first year attending this
> event, its 10th. I enjoyed the events, and was very impressed with the
> organization. The weather was perfect.
>
> In case you did not get a chance to visit the KO at Lake Morena this year,
> here are a few photos from my collection. Please let me know the names of
> the gear contestants so I can put their names in the captions.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/beemancron/2008ADZPCTKP
>
> Click on SLIDESHOW.
>
> Happy Trails to the Class of 2008.
>
> Beeman
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:00:10 EDT
From: Bighummel at aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] ADZPCTKO
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The aspiring hikers who attended the ADZ were so helpful, friendly, kind and
positive this year!!!
SWEET!
Greg "Striker" Hummel
(re-named by Eric Ryback Saturday night!)
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:25:03 EDT
From: Hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] 2008 Kickoff After Action Report
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: lizmares at cox.net, YFuquay at catholiccharities.com,
carolwbruno at yahoo.com, John.Hannah at wgint.com, reinholdmetzger at cox.net,
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Yes, once again, your pal, Switchback, to the disappointment of the many and
the joy of the few, has cheated death once again. This time at the Lake
Morena PCT Kickoff. This was the best and biggest Kickoff ever --- lots of
things to do. Everyone did a great job pulling this off. Wow --- what a herd
effect. A few observations:
1. I arrived at Warner Springs Resort on Wednesday after stopping at a
Harley shop and a chopper shop. Both were close by before I drove over to
Warner
Springs from I15.
2. The dinners Wednesday and Thursday night were great in the lodge dinner
room with about 20 hikers each night. It was a great time.
3. The hot/cool pools at the resort were great. What a neat place to relax
at the end of section A. On Thursday I went to the SD airport and picked up
LuLuLupie --- LaZorra's friend. I spend some time on the computers at the
lodge looking up trikes, motorcycles, etc. Then the thru hikers would chase
me away, so they could do their journaling.
4. On Friday morning LuLu and I gave a lift to Moonshiner and his new wife
(honeymooning by a thru hike) near Sissor's Crossing. We headed to Julian
for breakfast and some shopping --- of course, as host I bought. Then down to
Lake Morena.
5. Unsupported Reinhold arrived at our campsite and gave me a neat pirate
ball cap. His wife was sick and could not come too --- hope she is feeling
better. That left it up to me to keep him under control and not going farther
over to the Dark Side. All I can say is that I did my best.
6. Meadow's Ed and others gave me some nice pirate gifts. Others came up
to me and told me how much they enjoyed my posts. Of course, I knew the
lurkers out in the park, who did not enjoy my posts. Heh, heh, heh.
7. Yogi did a great job in reformatting my Hiker Trail Conduct flyer. It
was posted around the park. A number of people told me they appreciated it.
8. L-Rod's poster was a big hit and even the WagonMaster happily signed it.
It just goes to show the common love of the trail will overcome any
differences. I sure appreciate Lightning Rod supporting the Kickoff through
the
Pirate's Lair.
9. Someone TP'd my Pirate Lair table area while I was out goofing off. I
strongly suspect who this was. I know it had to be that infamous trail-water
mad scientist, AsABat. But I cannot actually catch him doing it each year.
10. Also, Stinker the Lair Mascot Skunk was a big hit too. The hiker babes
wanted to pet him. The SuperSecret Seminar had the most attendees ever ---
about 40 people. Again, the handsfree umbrella holder was a hit along with
shelter stake painting.
11. Lots of people had their Billy Goat Fan Club picture tee-shirt on. I
had one with Billy Goat and L-Rod's pictures.
12. I was in-charge of the Hiker Box this year at campsite #22 and it was
very well used. People were dropping and picking up things all the time.
13. Saturday afternoon I took LuLu and LaZorra over to Pine Valley for
lunch at Major's. After that we thought we would take LuLu to see the border
monument I told them a road on the way back was a shortcut. Four hours later
we arrived back at Lake Morena after ending up in San Diego the back way.
14. Lot of gear was on display. I especially like the Six Moons 360
viewing netting tent with the Gatewood Cape as a fly. All for 17 ounces.
15. I woke up very early Sunday and after a shower, I headed down to the
food area. I was the first one in line when they said breakfast was open for
"2008 Thru Hikers". I am glad Meadow's Ed was not around or he would have
kicked me out of there --- he is very observant.
16. After dropping LuLu off at the SD airport, I headed back to Las Vegas.
All and all a really good time. Lots of friendship and camaraderie ---
everyone was nice to me and did not try to ban me from the park, etc. The
weather was great too, but the wind did picked up Sunday morning.
Respectfully submitted, Switchback the Trail Pirate
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