[pct-l] Rude behavior in Warner Springs

[Donna Saufley]

Good people have been trying to get bad people to behave better for
centuries, and it hasn't solved the problem yet, so I don't think there's
much we can do to change them on the PCT.  

I think we have to accept that in any large group of people, you are going
to have a spectrum of attitudes and personalities, including those we find
distasteful and unacceptable. There is no etiquette police on the trail, and
no one will pull their ticket and send them home if they misbehave.  They
may get kicked out of businesses and hostel homes, and they might get in
trouble with law enforcement, but there is absolutely no means to keep them
off the trail due to the lack of enforcement out there.

We have to look at everyone as individuals, and not label entire groups
based on the behavior of just a few. Those few should be dealt with by those
they offend, on the spot, and the consequences they receive for their
infraction should be commensurate with the wrong doing.  We can only hope
that the consequences don't permanently alter things for everyone else.

L-Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of montypct
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:16 AM
To: PCT-L
Subject: [pct-l] Rude behavior in Warner Springs

Because of a few previous responses to a trail angel's previous post a while
back I will leave out what specifics I have heard.

I have received these three questions to my previous post.

>What prompted this question?

>Why you ask?

>Any examples of what you're hearing?

 

 

 All verbal not nice behavior in Warner Springs.

 

One in the mini-mart

 

One in the post office lobby toward another hiker

 

FOUR in the post office to Denise and her new clerk.





ALSO Closer to the border I heard a lot of talk about a couple incidents of
bad behavior including one incident involving Rangers.  We need these
Rangers.



ALSO we have already had an incident in Section E



Here, I am again leaving out lots of details so as not to cross the lines
that friends here on the list have suggested.



I would like to hear from others (on or off list) what they might know.  A
couple of years ago we had some bad behavior work it's way ALL the way up
the trail.  There was a lot of bad PR for hikers put out, and some still has
not been healed.



Solutions???



Monty







A few vague "I saw something similar" reported hikers zeroing in Warner
Springs.

Both to locals and to hikers.

Warner Springs Monty
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