[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 5, Issue 19

mark v allemande6 at yahoo.com
Mon May 5 16:34:53 CDT 2008


Hi from Idyllwild library.  A few of us did the
roadwalk in today, and it wasn't too bad.  Walk
against traffic and wear a bright color, like your PCT
ORANGE bandana.  We're hearing what you've heard, that
the fire is out but they're worried about it
restarting and so the trail will be closed for several
more days.  That's all for now!

markv ("Cuddles"  yes, you read correctly)

www.trailjournals.com/markvpct08

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>    1. Re: hiking california/oregon/washington coast
> (David)
>    2. The KO and Leave No Trace - NOT
> (kmurray at pol.net)
>    3. Snow situation in the sierra (kmurray at pol.net)
>    4. Switchback-Reinhold UL Industries (Hiker97)
>    5. (no subject) (taterno at cox.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:03:42 -0700
> From: David <dajada at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] hiking
> california/oregon/washington coast
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Nathan,
> 
> Check out Tha Wookie's trail journal from a couple
> years ago...
> 
>
http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?trailname=2254
> 
> Good luck on your hike!
> 
> David
> 
> >
> >  Message: 8
> >  Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:43:11 -0700 (PDT)
> >  From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
> >  Subject: Re: [pct-l] hiking
> california/oregon/washington coast
> >  To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >  Message-ID:
> <925632.61508.qm at web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >  >hello. im not quite sure how to use this, but
> here's my question.
> >  throughout the summer of 2009 my buddy and i want
> to backpack the coast of california, oregon, and
> washington. we would be starting somewhere outside
> of san diego. any information on making this dream a
> success would be greatly appreciated.
> >  my main questions:
> >  -are these regions accessible to backpackers?
> >  -what about the legal stuff? do we need permits?
> >  -how would we train?
> >  -cost estimation?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:15:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: <kmurray at pol.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] The KO and Leave No Trace - NOT
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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<33701.10.250.10.1.1209968148.squirrel at webmail.medscape.com>
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> tortoise, I read your note with interest.
> 
> Thanks for your efforts in cleanup at the KO, it
> really makes a difference.
> 
> Last year at the KO, I made a similar comment about
> there being no
> recycling at all, and a month ago, I got a call
> asking me if I'd like to
> coordinate the effort this year.  I said yes.
> 
> So what you saw was the result of my efforts, along
> with the work of a
> number of other volunteers, most especially Sam.....
> the first attempt to
> do this, large scale.
> 
> While I originally thought of separating out the
> different types, the guys
> who are local who picked up and transported the
> stuff, said that they
> didn't care if it was separated, so we did not.
> 
> By my guesstimate, I think we recycled about 20
> cubic yards of material. 
> That's a lot of stuff.  Last year, all the dumpsters
> were overflowing. 
> This year, only one was full, most were not 1/2
> full.
> 
> While it is tempting to think in terms of perfect,
> few things in life are.
>  This represents real progress, and my guess is that
> we can do a lot
> better.
> 
> Perhaps you will attend next year, and perhaps you
> might be willing to
> give me a hand if I end up doing this task again,
> which is currently my
> inclination.  Hauling trash around, after spending
> the day on Friday doing
> trailwork on the PCT, made for sound sleeping.
> 
> Thanks again for your thought provoking post.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: <kmurray at pol.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Snow situation in the sierra
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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<39537.10.250.10.1.1209968641.squirrel at webmail.medscape.com>
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> I gave the mountaineering talk at the KO, and gave a
> very optomistic
> assessment of the what folks were likely to
> encounter when they got into
> the Sierra.
> 
> It's actually looking even better.
> 
> The southernmost water sensor is at Casa Vieja
> Meadows, which is about 15
> miles west, and a couple of miles north of Kennedy
> Meadows, and at 8300
> feet.  The snow is melting at the rate of about an
> inch a day, and there
> is about 3 inches left.
> 
> At Crabtree,10,700 feet, it is melting a bit slower 
> 1/2-1 in/day, and
> there is about 5 inches.
> 
> At Tuolumne, the snow has basically melted.
> 
> If one looks at the big snow pages, there has been
> intense melting, and
> the slope of the curve suggests that the snow will
> melt out at this rate,
> before last year, the very low snow year!
> 
>
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/reports/PLOT_SWC.2008
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon,  5 May 2008 02:38:03 -0700
> From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Switchback-Reinhold UL Industries
> To: reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> Cc: PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>,
> john.hannah at wgint.com,
> 	carolwbruno at yahoo.com
> Message-ID:
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> Say, we were just thinking.  A really neat PCT trail
> name or name of a company would be SNAG - Trail
> Snag.  That is too cool.  I wonder what that would
> stand for?  Let's see.  How about Simply No Account
> Good.  Or Super Not-heads And Goof-off's.  Or Sub
> Nano Atomic Gram-weenies.  Or Sure-fire No Account
> Goof-offs.  Etc., etc., etc.
> 
> Just remember that our PCT-L comments are always on
> topic, thought provoking, insightful, and timely. 
> Try to be more like us.
> 
> Cheers, Switchback the Trail Pirate and Stinker the
> Trail Skunk
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 8:10:33 -0700
> From: <taterno at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] (no subject)
> To: "n7rr at pocketmail.com" <n7rr at pocketmail.com>, 
> Donna Saufley
> 	<dsaufley at sprynet.com>, 	"pct-l at backcountry.net"
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> I just talked to the Idyllwild Forest Service
> Office, asking when they expect to open the PCT
> north of highway 74.  At this time, they do not have
> a forecasted date as to when it will open.  The road
> walk / hitch to Idyllwild is still required.
> 
> 
> Tom KI6ASP
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