[pct-l] Snow levels in WA.
Jason Waicunas
pct2005 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 9 10:47:42 CDT 2008
Does anyone know if there is snow (and how much if so) on the PCT near Goat Rocks, Snoqualmie Pass, and Stehekin? There's a gang of us looking to do about 100 miles next week.
-Nabor J
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> 1. Birdgeport to Sonora Pass (Kenneth Schwarz)
> 2. ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum'' (Reinhold Metzger)
> 3. Sightings (Jay Allen)
> 4. Re: Trail Tunes (Tom Aterno)
> 5. Re: ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum'' (Brick Robbins)
> 6. Re: ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum'' (Scott Bryce)
> 7. Laid Off - Long Trail Ideas (Jim and/or Ginny Owen)
> 8. Re: ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum'' (ed faubert)
> 9. Re: Hiker Pack - Trail Magic in Southern WA? (Carolyn Eddy)
> 10. ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum'' (Reinhold Metzger)
> 11. Re: Hiker Pack - Trail Magic in Southern WA? (Maroozer McLooper)
> 12. tunes (Ellen Shopes)
> 13. Re: tunes (ed faubert)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:07:49 -0700
> From: "Kenneth Schwarz"
> Subject: [pct-l] Birdgeport to Sonora Pass
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> Is there a trail angel that can
> transport me from Bridgeport to Sonora
> Pass on Sept. 18th, or is hitching the
> best way? I don't want to leave my car -
> at the pass in case it gets snowed in.
> I will be hiking to Tuolumne Meadows
> and will get picked up there. Thanks,
> Ken
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:12:04 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger
> Subject: [pct-l] ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum''
> To: PCT
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> What is the difference between ''Hiker Trash'' and a
> ''Bum''?.......NOT MUCH!!!
>
> JMT Reinhold
> The rolling stone....talking from experience
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jay Allen
> Subject: [pct-l] Sightings
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> Did a small SOBO hike from Surprise Lake to (just south of) Deception Pass and came across:
>
> 'unknown'? -- a few but didn't get their name logged, so i forgot (near surprise lake) 9/4
> Drive by -- [but i'm not positive since he went by so fast; red flame tattoo on his leg] (near glacier lakes) 9/4
> Sparky -- (at deception lakes) 9/5
> Pickles -- (north of deception pass) 9/5
>
> best of luck to all!
>
> -jay
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:19:28 -0700
> From: Tom Aterno
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Tunes
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> I like them all.
>
> Here are a few more I had in my player. These don't necessarily have
> anything to do with the trail, but some are appropriate, such as mean
> Old Wind Died Down, which is what I wished the wind would have done
> two weekends ago at Thousand Island Lake.
>
> A Little Help From My Friends - Joe Cocker (Woodstock version)
> Going Up the County - Canned Heat
> Fresh Air - Quicksilver Messenger Service
> Mean Town Blues - Johnny Winter
> Mean Old Wind Died Down - North Mississippi Allstars
> Otis Reading - I've Been Loving You
> Working Class Hero - John Lennon (for those of us aspiring to be hiker
> trash)
> Waterloo Sunset - Kinks
>
> Here is one I will need to add:
>
> There Ain't No Bugs On Me - Garcia and Grisman
>
>
> And in response to Reinhold, and I am not trying to start a war of
> words, this is just my observation...
>
> Ah, but there is a difference between hiker trash and a bum.
>
> Hiker trash works six months of the year in order to hike six months
> of the year.
>
> A bum works at nothing, except being a bum.
>
> Happy listening.
>
>
> The Incredible Bulk
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Paul wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 07 September 2008, Tom Aterno wrote:
>>> What were your favorites on the trail this year, or last?
>>
>> When I get out there, it's gotta be: "Here I go again" by
>> Whitesnake...
>>
>>
>> And here I go again on my own
>> Goin down the only road Ive ever known,
>> Like a hobo* I was born to walk alone
>> And I've made up my mind
>> I ain't wasting no more time
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:09:27 -0700
> From: "Brick Robbins"
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum''
> To: "Reinhold Metzger"
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> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Reinhold Metzger
> wrote:
>> What is the difference between ''Hiker Trash'' and a
>> ''Bum''?......
>
>
> Gortex......
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:36:02 -0600
> From: Scott Bryce
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum''
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Brick Robbins wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Reinhold Metzger
>> wrote:
>>> What is the difference between ''Hiker Trash'' and a
>>> ''Bum''?......
>>
>>
>> Gortex......
>
>
> No self respecting through hiker would wear that stuff.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:55:40 -0400
> From: Jim and/or Ginny Owen
> Subject: [pct-l] Laid Off - Long Trail Ideas
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> This is a good time to hike the Arizona Trail. It isn't as easy as the PCT, but it has been hiked and biked by many people over the past 15 years or so. Start at the north and you should be beyond the Mogollan Rim before snow season starts.
>
> I wouldn't recommend that you do the Hayduke unless you have experience with Utah type canyon hiking - i.e. no trail, rock scrambling/climbing, navigational issues and long waterless stretches (i.e. 40 miles or more). The country is beautiful, but the Hayduke isn't really a trail, more of a route. You can't do the kind of mileage you do on an established trail (i.e. the guidebook recommends less than 10 miles a day for most sections). You need permits for each of the National Parks, which means keeping to a schedule - not easy if the guidebook mileage recommendations are correct.
>
> The Grand Enchantment Trail would be somewhere in between the AZT and the Hayduke in terms of the amount of experience needed. Brett's website gives really good information on the trail. He has done a great job. However, again you must be comfortable with uncertain navigation. Desert trails are often unmarked at junctions and it can be hard to tell the difference between a cow trail and the hiking trail. For this one, start at the east end now and head west.
>
> If you are comfortable with winter hiking, you could start the AT in Maine and head south. Just go as far as you choose.
>
> You could even hike the Colorado Trail now as long as you are prepared for the occasional snow storm. When we hiked the CDT the first time, we reached northern CO around Labor Day and entered NM in mid-October. It was cold, and we got some snow, but we had winter gear so we were okay.
>
> If you don't mind hurricanes, it will soon start to cool off in Florida.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Ginny
>
> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:15:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ed faubert
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum''
> To: Scott Bryce
> Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
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> Ah,..............no self respecting hiker, etc etc. Maby thats my problem with Gortex reps..............
> Meadow Ed
>
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Scott Bryce wrote:
>
> From: Scott Bryce
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum''
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 6:36 PM
>
> Brick Robbins wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Reinhold Metzger
>> wrote:
>>> What is the difference between ''Hiker Trash'' and a
>>> ''Bum''?......
>>
>>
>> Gortex......
>
>
> No self respecting through hiker would wear that stuff.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:40:31 -0700
> From: "Carolyn Eddy"
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker Pack - Trail Magic in Southern WA?
> To: "Maroozer McLooper" ,
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> I saw Weebles and Garage sale, ( think that was his name?) at Stabler store
> today but it was pretty quiet up there all weekend as near as I could tell.
>
> I saw more people around Cascade Locks and Stevenson three weeks ago than
> this weekend.
>
> "Sweet Goat Mama"
> Carolyn Eddy
> www.goattracksmagazine.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:12:27 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger
> Subject: [pct-l] ''Hiker Trash'' vs ''Bum''
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Brick Robbins
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> Of course not.....what kind of a hiker do you think I am?
>
> JMT Reinhold
>
> -----------------------------
>
> Scott wrote:
> No self respecting through hiker would wear that stuff.
>
> -----------------------------
>
> Brick wrote:
> Gortex..........
>
> -----------------------------
>
> JMT Reinhold wrote
>
> What is the difference between ''Hiker Trash'' and a
> ''Bum''?.......NOT MUCH!!!
>
> JMT Reinhold
> The rolling stone....talking from experience
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 02:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Maroozer McLooper
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker Pack - Trail Magic in Southern WA?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: karaRC at gmail.com
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> Hello folks - thank you for your suggestions and help with us getting geared and setup for this - we had a great time and I really enjoyed driving some of those WA back roads - they seemed way better than OR back roads (maybe just me?)
>
> Trail magic was a whomping success. We were on our way to the town of Cougar to get our permits by 5:30am~ to climb St. Helens on Monday and setting up trail magic where NF-24 crosses the PCT by 8am. I think we may have missed 1 or 2 early early hikers, and possibly some later evening ones, but we were able to provide trail magic to 8 thru hikers and 1 sectioner (who's last child is finally in college, so this was his first section (half of WA~)).
>
> we didn't take pictures, but they did-so it may be up on their journals in due time. We forgot the chocolate milk at home - but they drained our juice, fresh cut cantelope, cut watermelon, grapes, pears, apples, oranges, potato chips, cookies, nutterbutter bars, and a fair amount of soda, and a few people had a beer or two (unlike on the AT when generally the alcohol disappeared first [maybe the rain and countless pointless-ups-and-downs without views of mt. adams and st. helens, etc needed to be numbed]). We were able to take folks trash and the folding camp chairs were a bit hit too! We had 4 groups and each stayed about 2 hours which was very generous of them : )
>
> not 15~minutes after we'd set out the table and chairs and coolers we had the first group of 4. They left around 10:30 and the next group came around 11 and left at 1, then snowkitten and gazelle came around 1:30 and Michelle and Gerry shortly after them and left with snowkitten and gazelle. We packed up around 3:30. A smashing success - we plan on doing more of it in the future (but such a narrow window generally speaking!) Thanks again! good luck and happy trails to:
>
> Glow-worm
> TreeBeard
> Spiff
> Six Toes
>
> Tahoe Mike
> Tailwind(s?)
>
> Snowkitten
> Gazelle
>
> Michelle & Gerry
>
> Diesel (section hiking)
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:19:26 -0500
> From: "Ellen Shopes"
> Subject: [pct-l] tunes
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> Not one to listen to music as I hike, but you all left out 2:
> Walking Man, James Taylor
> I'm Gonna Climb That Mountain, Reba
>
> Ellen
> (don't make me pull out Helen Reddy!)
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ed faubert
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tunes
> To: Ellen Shopes
> Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
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>
> Well i am a Pink Floyd fan and i love the tune " Is anybody out there"
> Meadow Ed here--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Ellen Shopes wrote:
>
> From: Ellen Shopes
> Subject: [pct-l] tunes
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:19 AM
>
> Not one to listen to music as I hike, but you all left out 2:
> Walking Man, James Taylor
> I'm Gonna Climb That Mountain, Reba
>
> Ellen
> (don't make me pull out Helen Reddy!)
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