[pct-l] Ouachita Trails

Wed Sep 10 14:42:27 CDT 2008

Julie
On the Ouachita Trails check with Charlie Williams - he is the expert on the
Ouachita. His site is www.ouachitamaps.com. I have ridden the western
Ouachitas and am very familiar with that area, including the OT and would be
glad to provide pick up if you need it. 
Susan(Grayhair)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Snow Condx in Stehekin Region (Dick Bingham)
   2. Snow Levels in WA (Jeff Dishman)
   3. Re: Trouble from lack of Canuck paperwork? (Tom Aterno)
   4. 2009 Kickoff (Hiker97)
   5. Re: tunes (Will M)
   6. Re: Trouble from lack of Canuck paperwork? (BIll & Cathy)
   7. How do you distinguish scuzzy ''Hiker Trash'' from a grubby
      ''Homeless Bum''? (Reinhold Metzger)
   8. Re: How do you distinguish scuzzy ''Hiker Trash'' from a
      grubby ''Homeless Bum''? (Trail90)
   9. Hiking in Mid-November (Will M)
  10. Ouachita Trail (Julie Day)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:41:45 -0700
From: "Dick Bingham" <dick.bingham at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Snow Condx in Stehekin Region
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Regarding ===>
"Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:47:42 -0400
From: Jason Waicunas <pct2005 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow levels in WA.
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Does anyone know if there is snow (and how much if so) on the PCT near
Goat Rocks, Snoqualmie Pass, and Stehekin?  There's a gang of us
looking to do about 100 miles next week.

-Nabor J ..."

====================
The snow conditions in the Stehekin region are a non-event - read that
as clear and easy hiking... The last 'hint' of snow on the
Stehekin-visible side of McGregor Mtn should be completely melted
within a few days (two tiny patches remain). The glacier on it's
back-side is way off-trail from the PCT and not a problem.
-- 
Dick Bingham - W7WKR CN98pi
Stehekin, WA
Located in "The Alps of America"

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:02:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Dishman <dishjad at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Snow Levels in WA
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Nabor J,
?
We just finished Washington, southbound.? There is no snow to be concerned
about anywhere on the PCT in WA.? A few tiny patches on the Goat Rocks, but
nothing to be concerned about.
?
Rabbit & Tumbleweed
?

?
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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:47:42 -0400
From: Jason Waicunas <pct2005 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow levels in WA.
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Does anyone know if there is snow (and how much if so) on the PCT near Goat
Rocks, Snoqualmie Pass, and Stehekin?  There's a gang of us looking to do
about 100 miles next week.

-Nabor J

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:23:15 -0700
From: Tom Aterno <taterno at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trouble from lack of Canuck paperwork?
To: yetifan at yahoo.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Yes, you will be arrested for carrying a signed photo of Obama.

(I can hear the flames approaching - duck)

The Incredible Bulk

On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Scott Herriott wrote:

> In one of my frequent bouts of numbskullery, I neglected to fill out  
> and send to the powers that be in Canada a "pre-clearance" form in  
> relation to legally entering their fine country.  I do, though, have  
> my passport, drivers license and an autographed pic of Barack  
> Obama.  Anyone experienced or heard of any negative actions arising  
> from such an international blunder?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Squatch
> www.walkpct.com
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Message: 4
Date: Fri,  5 Sep 2008 19:47:25 -0700
From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
Subject: [pct-l] 2009 Kickoff
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Say, speaking of the upcoming Kickoff next April at Lake Morena.  I think I
will make free Switchback's World Famous Umbrella Holders for anyone that
needs one.  They weigh about an ounce or less.  

I am now working on my agenda at the Kickoff Pirate's Lair.  Hummmm.  Cabin
fever must be setting in.  But my big expedition to Tuolumne Meadows will
take care of that.  I think I will go in early October for more of a chance
of weather challenges.  Maybe I will get lucky and have a big storm --
Mother Nature flexing her muscles.  Scaring off all the pilgrims, but
exciting us mountainmen.

Best regards, Switchback the Trail Pirate

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:56:47 -0700
From: "Will M" <jalan04 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] tunes
To: "BIll & Cathy" <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
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Try the album "Tea for the Tilerman":  two songs come to mind: " On the road
to find out" and "miles from nowhere".  Wouldn't be surprised to find out
Cat Stevens was thru hiking when he wrote these.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:53 AM, BIll & Cathy <tahoe.cat at verizon.net> wrote:

> "How's Your Trail?"   My favorite for the trail,  Simon & Garfunkle's  "El
> Condor Pasa"     I'd rather feel the earth beneath my feet        and
> Remember
> "Be Prepared"   Ground Pounder Bill  "Semper Fi"
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed faubert" <edfaubert at yahoo.com>
> To: "Ellen Shopes" <igellen at comcast.net>
> Cc: <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tunes
>
>
> >
> > Well i am a Pink Floyd fan and i love the tune " Is anybody out there"
> > Meadow Ed here--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Ellen Shopes <igellen at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Ellen Shopes <igellen at comcast.net>
> > Subject: [pct-l] tunes
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:19 AM
> >
> > Not one to listen to music as I hike, but you all left out 2:
> >    Walking Man, James Taylor
> >    I'm Gonna Climb That Mountain, Reba
> >
> > Ellen
> > (don't make me pull out Helen Reddy!)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:27:58 -0700
From: "BIll & Cathy" <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trouble from lack of Canuck paperwork?
To: "Tom Aterno" <taterno at cox.net>,	<yetifan at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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You can not carry "Terrorist Pictures" with you.  That's a no no 
Ground Pounder Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Aterno" <taterno at cox.net>
To: <yetifan at yahoo.com>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trouble from lack of Canuck paperwork?

> Yes, you will be arrested for carrying a signed photo of Obama.
>
> (I can hear the flames approaching - duck)
>
> The Incredible Bulk
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Scott Herriott wrote:
>
>> In one of my frequent bouts of numbskullery, I neglected to fill out
>> and send to the powers that be in Canada a "pre-clearance" form in
>> relation to legally entering their fine country.  I do, though, have
>> my passport, drivers license and an autographed pic of Barack
>> Obama.  Anyone experienced or heard of any negative actions arising
>> from such an international blunder?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Squatch
>> www.walkpct.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pct-l mailing list
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:16:44 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] How do you distinguish scuzzy ''Hiker Trash'' from a
	grubby ''Homeless Bum''?
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
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Say Switchback,
I saw a ''Homeless Bum''  at McDonald's  the other day looking for a 
handout, so I bought him a hamburger instead
of giving him money.
I always do that, this way they get something to eat instead of 
something to drink.
After I left I started thinking, ''funny'', I never saw a ''Homeless 
Bum'' with trekking poles before.....I wonder if he was
''Hiker Trash'' instead?.....They all look alike, kind off, ....grubby, 
scuzzy, dirty and malnourished.

Say, how  DO YOU  tell  "grubby ''Hiker Trash''  from a scuzzy  
''Homeless Bum???

JMT Reinhold

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:58:15 -0700
From: Trail90 <pct-l at mattmaxon.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] How do you distinguish scuzzy ''Hiker Trash''
	from a grubby ''Homeless Bum''?
To: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
Message-ID: <48C7B657.9040800 at mattmaxon.com>
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Reinhold Metzger wrote:
>
> Say, how  DO YOU  tell  "grubby ''Hiker Trash''  from a scuzzy  
> ''Homeless Bum???
>
>   
The smile :)

Trail90

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:09:31 -0700
From: "Will M" <jalan04 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Hiking in Mid-November
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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	<417c00f70809100809s13c3a02aif1cb64a5089557af at mail.gmail.com>
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Fortune has thrown me a loopy curve ball and I now find that I wlll have 6
weeks off starting in mid-November.

I was hoping to take this time off in the spring to do some section-hiking
on the PCT but am now re-thinking my plan.

Are there any parts of the trail that I can count on being hikeable in this
mid-November time-frame?

I have a section to make up from Paradise Cafe to Fuller Ridge and another
from Tuolumne meadows  to Sonora pass.

Jalan jalan

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:17:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Julie Day <jewle33 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Ouachita Trail
To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hello All!

I'm a Bay Area native currently residing in central Arkansas, and on the
hunt for recommended backpacking trails in the area.? I wouldn't say I'm
bored with our nearby hikes, but certainly in need of more variety and
longer mileage.? A few of us are considering hiking the Ouachita Trail this
fall in preparation for the 2009 PCT season - has anyone done this trail and
have any advice as far as weather, gear, water, east-or westbound, etc??
November is looking like our best shot to thru-hike it this year, but if you
recommend otherwise I'd love to hear why!

Many thanks,

--Julie

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