[pct-l] 2009 pack thru Forester Pass

susan woodswitch at hughes.net
Sun Sep 21 09:07:56 CDT 2008 

Does anyone know of the alternate route for stock instead of going over
Forester Pass, Glen Pass, Pinchot & Mather Passes - looks like I will be
hitting the area mid June and am very concerned about snow at that time.
Could skip it and come back later in the summer after taking the rest of the
trail north but prefer not to. Any suggestions? 
Susan (Grayhair) 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Talk Like a Pirate Day (Hiker97)
   2. Re: Clinton C. Clarke Route (Hiker97)
   3. Re: Clinton C. Clarke Route (Scott Bryce)
   4. Re: 2008 DVD (mark v)
   5. Re: 2008 DVD (Tom Aterno)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:58:48 -0700
From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Talk Like a Pirate Day
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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herbstroh at charter.net writes: Ok--- What's a pirate's favorite national
park???   Answer: ARE-ches... 
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Switchback the Trail Pirate replies: I have to admit that is pretty funny.
I thought I was the jokester on the PCT-L.  Obviously, I am wrong.  :-)


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:14:55 -0700
From: Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Clinton C. Clarke Route
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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AsABat the Prankster wrote: There can be several reasons the PCT is not
where it was originally envisioned. Sometimes it's to avoid highly popular
areas - such as Mt. San Gorgonio. Others it was an inability (or lack of
will?) to acquire the necessary easements. A classic example of this is why
the PCT goes over the San Felipe Hills 23 miles without water when it should
have gone over forested Volcan Mountain to the west. The irony is that much
of Volcan has transferred from private ranches to conserved open space
since. On a smaller scale, the trail sometimes makes small detours to avoid
sensitive areas, such as rare plants or archeological sites. 
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Switchback replies: Also, the current PCT route goes past the Clinton C.
Clarke tree.  This was discovered by Switchback several years ago near
Warner Springs Resort --- on the PCT Warner Springs Loop.  It is one of the
largest Cottonwood trees in the world and along the PCT.  It is in a
campground at site #22.  Warner Springs Monty is the Guardian of this part
of the PCT, including this biological wonder.  It is speculated that ancient
early man rituals were performed at its base.  Also, there seems to be
scratches of Mutant Saber Tooth Mountain Lions on its trunk.


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:41:17 -0600
From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Clinton C. Clarke Route
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Hiker97 wrote:
> Switchback replies: Also, the current PCT route goes past the Clinton
> C. Clarke tree.

Which many PCT hikers don't see, since they leave WS via the highway. As
I passed by it, I was unaware of the significance of that moment.

> Warner Springs Monty is the Guardian of this part of the PCT,

I didn't see him there.

> Also, there seems to be scratches of Mutant Saber Tooth Mountain
> Lions on its trunk.

I missed those too.

Fortunately for me, someone was camped near the tree. The route through
the campground at that point was a little confusing. Said camper pointed
the way, and I walked by totally unaware that I was walking past such a
significant biological wonder.


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: mark v <allemande6 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 2008 DVD
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My understanding is that (Lime Green) Jellybean, Jeannie Zortman, is
planning to be in charge of the DVD.  Sleepwalker and Overdose also had
plans on some sort of project, separate or otherwise.  All three are still
finishing the trail though...it is only 9/20 after all.  I'll make sure that
they are in touch with each other, with last year's DVD guru Cloudspotter,
and with this list if that matters.  But i don't think you'll hear much from
any of them for a couple of weeks still.

Cuddles 


      


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:58:57 -0700
From: Tom Aterno <taterno at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 2008 DVD
To: allemande6 at yahoo.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, jeanmzortman at aol.com
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I have been in touch with Jellybean.  There is so much work to be  
done, it is certainly a job for more than one person.  Since I did not  
thru hike this year (I section hiked this year) Jellybean will control  
the editorial and artistic content.  I am collecting the hiker  
database, photos and music and will make copies of the dvd for mailing.

I look forward to working with her.

The Incredible Bulk



On Sep 20, 2008, at 8:49 AM, mark v wrote:

>
> My understanding is that (Lime Green) Jellybean, Jeannie Zortman, is  
> planning to be in charge of the DVD.  Sleepwalker and Overdose also  
> had plans on some sort of project, separate or otherwise.  All three  
> are still finishing the trail though...it is only 9/20 after all.   
> I'll make sure that they are in touch with each other, with last  
> year's DVD guru Cloudspotter, and with this list if that matters.   
> But i don't think you'll hear much from any of them for a couple of  
> weeks still.
>
> Cuddles
>
>
>
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