[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 20, Issue 28

Wed Aug 19 00:30:03 CDT 2009

think about this...Bob at Hikertown today asked me how many square miles is the PCT. hmm...never thought of that.. if the trail is 2 feet wide, the whole trail would fit inside a square just a tad bit bigger than?ONE?square mile. hows THAT for perspective???

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Paint Weight (hiker97 at aol.com)
   2. Re: Timberline Buffet Cancelled (Randy Forsland)
   3. Re: Thru-hiker Number of Counties (bighummel at aol.com)
   4. Re: Colby Pass Trail (Mann)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:08:34 -0400
From: hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Paint Weight
To: tokencivilian at yahoo.com
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Token writes:?When I'm not hiking, I do aircraft weight and balance for a major 
Seattle based aerospace firm.? The external primer and paint on a wide body 
aircraft can easily reach several hundred pounds to upwards of 1,000 lbs.

?

Typical paint is 0.008 lbs per square foot per 0.001" (mil)?of thickness.? 
Typical thickness of a top coat of paint on an aircraft is 0.003 to 0.005".? I 
figure your tent stake painting is probably similar thickness - call it 0.004" 
for an average.

?

So, knowing that, you should be able to figure out pretty easily the weight of 
the paint.? 

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Weight in pounds = 0.008 * 4 * stake length in inches * (stake diameter in 
inches)^2 * ( 1 / 144 conversion from square feet to square inches) * (3.14 / 4)

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Multiply by 454 to get the weight in grams.

??

Example:

Call it 6" long stake 0.125" in diameter:

Wt = 0.008 * 4 * 6 * 0.125^2 * (1/144) * 3.14 / 4 = .000016 lbs = 0.007 grams 
per stake.

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Switchback replies:?Yes, thos
e are the?calculations I use too......................... 
:-) 

Say, I just remembered that I only paint the top portion of the shelter stakes, 
so the weight is actually less than 0.007 grams per stake.? Some people only 
have me paint the very tops of their stakes to save paint weight.? Now that is 
what I call serious light weight backpacking.? I remember AsABat trying to put 
painted and unpainted shelter stakes on my electronic scale to see if he could 
determine the extra weight of the florescent paint.? 

?

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:05:57 -0700
From: Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Timberline Buffet Cancelled
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That sucks...that was one of the better buffets on the trail. A waffle piled
high with berries and whipped cream. Hope they change it back.

Redwood

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>wrote:

> The Horror!
> After all the drooling over Belgian waffles and the dreamy talk from
> southbounders I arrived at Timberline lodge and found out the buffet has
> been changed. It is now a lunch buffet that opens at 11 AM.
> So if you know a thru hiker hell bent on getting all you can eat
> breakfast.. tell them to forget it or reschedule their plans. I just ate a
> poptart this AM.. Boo Hoo.. Could have been a Belgian Waffle dripping with
> syrup and drinking REAL Coffee.
> Oh well, I guess I will hike to Canada instead.
> Cheers-Iceaxe
> Sent from the Trail on my Peek
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:52:23 -0400
From: bighummel at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru-hiker Number of Counties
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Cool, now along with PCT trivia;

The PCT goes through;

3 National Monuments

7 National Parks

24 National Forests

33 Federally-mandated Wilderness Areas

we can now add;

45 counties!

And 4,678,080 steps (if you happen to have a 3 foot stride!!!!)

Greg

"Don't let the bastards drag you down!"

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:20:43 -0700
From: Mann <bmann1 at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Colby Pass Trail
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David,

In 1977 my family did a loop from Road's End over Avalanche Pass to Colby
Pass, down the Kern-Kaweah Valley, then up the headwaters of the Kern and
over cross-country Harrison Pass and back down to Road's End.  My husband
Scout and I hiked this again in 2004, with some added cross-country and
trail miles through Sequoia, to make it a longer hike.

This is a great route through gorgeous country!  We definitely plan to go
back someday. In 2004 we found that the trail east from Colby Pass was not
in great shape, but definitely follow-able. There had been a trail crew
working on the trail up to Colby Lake from the west side, so maybe they've
improved the trail on the east side as well by now.

I haven't hiked the 3.5 miles from the Kern River over to the John Muir
Trail north of Crabtree Meadow, but it looks straightforward.

Have a great time!

-Frodo

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