[pct-l] Pct-l Stove canisters

Bruce Randall bruce.a.randall at gmail.com
Wed Dec 9 13:25:19 CST 2009


I recently saw the Jet Boil on a 14ner trip and was impressed. Well except
for the fact that the canister is a environmentally unfriendly toss and
non-reusable item and the fact that I would always be toting around 5 half
empty canisters trying to use them up or continually buying new canisters
and chucking ?? full canisters. Ok, I would never let them end up in a land
fill so I would have a box full of them.  I will stick to my MSR Wisper
Light.



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>   4. Stove canisters (Spring)
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> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:02:15 -0800
> From: Christopher Kopp <christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Congratulations and thank you to Halfmile!
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Great to see you have finished the map series!  I, along with many others
> in
> this forum, greatly appreciate the work you have done!
> When will the Google Earth files be completed?  I can?t help asking, I
> always want more!
> Chris
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> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:50:08 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jereen Anderson <jereenanderson at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] TP - burying vs Packing out - also an organic
>        subutitute
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> I always tried to bury waste and my bio-degradable?TP?in organic soil where
> carbonic acid and bacteria are present to help break it down - also, it
> helps if you?pee on the TP before filling the hole. While I have never
> packed out my TP, if you do you could use an OPSAK, which lets out no odors.
> I discovered a good organic substitute for toilet paper that is fairly
> abundant wherever there are FIR trees.There are two species:?the pale green
> lichen and also the nearly black lichen that you will see hanging from the
> trees and on the ground beneath?fir?trees
> MendoRider??????????????????
> ?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed,  9 Dec 2009 00:30:03 -0800
> From: canoeman at qnet.com
> Subject: [pct-l] jetboil new convert
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I am not a long distance hiker any more, too many responsibilities ( read
> daughter in college, astrophysics, for the long run. PHD)
> So I am reintroducing myself to 2, 3, 5 day hikes, so pack weight not as
> much of
> an issue, as it is for thru hikers.
> After doing my research I broke down and picked up the Jet boil flash and
> the
> helios guide cooking kit.
> I'm thoroughly impressed.
> I think I'll throw my MRS whispers on ebay, no more priming and mini
> flareups,
> no pumping.
> I tried it out after picking it up with the coffee press and made my work
> crew
> some  trader joes coffee, with organc fair trade Cacao chocolate nibs, and
> with
> some 83 percent cacao dark chocolate bars as a treat.
> It was a total hit on this freezing night.
> I love this stove, very nice, trouble free super fast boiling.
>
>
> jetboil convert
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:32:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Spring <kjssail at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Stove canisters
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> It is my understanding that the folks who control the shipping rules have
> made it illegal to ship yourself - via USPS or UPS or others - stove
> canisters.? My experience is that they are quite limited in finding in
> stores along the trail. For those contemplating using a Jet Boil or other
> canister stove on the PCT, where can the canisters be purchased?
>
> Spring
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:03:06 -0600
> From: David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stove canisters
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> Here is everything you need to know:
> http://www.gottawalk.com/shipping_fuel.htm
>
> Be sure to give thanks to Gottawalk.
>
> BigToe
>
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> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Spring
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:33 AM
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> Subject: [pct-l] Stove canisters
>
> It is my understanding that the folks who control the shipping rules have
> made it illegal to ship yourself - via USPS or UPS or others - stove
> canisters.? My experience is that they are quite limited in finding in
> stores along the trail. For those contemplating using a Jet Boil or other
> canister stove on the PCT, where can the canisters be purchased?
>
> Spring
>
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> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:15:34 -0800
> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] PCT Planning Page
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> All things PCT now have their own page at postholer.com. Weather, fire,
> FAQ,
> map, photo atlas, mail drops, links, POI's, etc, are all on one page:
>
> http://postholer.com/planning.php
>
> -postholer
>
> ------------------------------------
> Trail Journals, Google Trail Maps, Forums: http://postholer.com
> Pacific Crest Trail Photo Atlas: http://postholer.com/photoAtlas.php
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:27:01 -0800
> From: <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] jetboil new convert
> To: <canoeman at qnet.com>,        <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hey, can I be on your work crew??? With coffee like that, you'll have no
> problem with disgruntled workers!
>
> Mtnned
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <canoeman at qnet.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:30 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] jetboil new convert
>
>
> >I am not a long distance hiker any more, too many responsibilities ( read
> > daughter in college, astrophysics, for the long run. PHD)
> > So I am reintroducing myself to 2, 3, 5 day hikes, so pack weight not as
> > much of
> > an issue, as it is for thru hikers.
> > After doing my research I broke down and picked up the Jet boil flash and
> > the
> > helios guide cooking kit.
> > I'm thoroughly impressed.
> > I think I'll throw my MRS whispers on ebay, no more priming and mini
> > flareups,
> > no pumping.
> > I tried it out after picking it up with the coffee press and made my work
> > crew
> > some  trader joes coffee, with organc fair trade Cacao chocolate nibs,
> and
> > with
> > some 83 percent cacao dark chocolate bars as a treat.
> > It was a total hit on this freezing night.
> > I love this stove, very nice, trouble free super fast boiling.
> >
> >
> > jetboil convert
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:40:40 -0800
> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Stove canisters
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> As a devout Esbit user, you'll find these problems don't exist. You can
> ship
> ground, not air. I kept all my fuel, 120 tabs, in my bounce box. It was
> always there when I needed it. I'd carry about 10 at a time. At 50 cents
> each, $60 dollars easily covers the entire trip, compared to $20 for
> alcohol.
>
>  If you're doing simple cooking, hot water, rehydrating, etc, it can't be
> beat. The stove (3.25 oz) with 5 fuel tabs weigh 6 oz.
>
> For more elaborate cooking I understand canister stoves are the way to go.
>
> If you're a pyromanic and like walking through charred moonscape-esque
> landscape, by all means carry a pepsi-can alcohol stove. While you might be
> an icon of safety with an alcohol stove, I PROMISE the hiker next you may
> not be. No stove has done more damage to the forests along the PCT than the
> home made alcohol stoves.
>
> In the west where fire season is 365 days, alocohol stoves are a trend that
> need to just go away.
>
> -postholer
>
> >>>>
> It is my understanding that the folks who control the shipping rules have
> made it illegal to ship yourself - via USPS or UPS or others - stove
> canisters.  My experience is that they are quite limited in finding in
> stores along the trail. For those contemplating using a Jet Boil or other
> canister stove on the PCT, where can the canisters be purchased?
>
> ------------------------------------
> Trail Journals, Google Trail Maps, Forums: http://postholer.com
> Pacific Crest Trail Photo Atlas: http://postholer.com/photoAtlas.php
>
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