[pct-l] sleep system

[Stephen]

This is good advise about cold air.  Just being aware of it will have you 
noticing cold drafts in the evenings and such.  It's real noticeable around 
town here where there are gullies.  Before I knew of the word catabatic I 
used to refer to these cold areas as cold sinks.  While I know the saying 
hike high and camp low, I like to camp high as weather allows. So I carry a 
lofty 2lb down bag and expect to sleep in my PJ's when the frost is on. 
Anything beyond this would seem overkill to me.  Eat a good size supper, and 
perhaps a good snack to keep the cells producing heat through the night, and 
get up and wizz as the body has to keep that warm too.  I'm a warm sleeper 
for a the first few hours, but will burnup calories and get chilly sometimes 
before dawn.  I'm used to being up early anyways fumbling around with camera 
gear and coffee and if I were cold I ussually forget once I start moving 
around.  Or just pack up and start walking, make a hot morning drink down 
the trail after the bloods flowing (note that this is an easy going careful 
start as the body needs to warm and loosen up).
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey Olson" <jolson at olc.edu>
Cc: <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleep system


> Hey Jesse:
>
> My experience is that you have to go out and just do it for a while to
> be able to answer your questions.  I can tell you my 20 degree quilt
> works for me in 10 degree weather - it does.  So???
>
> Being a cold sleeper doesn't mean much.  With experience you'll choose
> to sleep places that are warmer than others - you learn!!!!
>
> Google "CATABATIC AIR"
>
> I'm always a bit bemused by discussions of sleeping gear.  If you're a
> "cold" sleeper you can carry a 24 oz tent or 14 oz tarp you can cinch
> down and a 30 degree bag/quilt  also around 20 oz that will get you
> through anything you experience on the PCT.  You may have a night or two
> where you wear your day clothes but you can't plan based on the worst
> case scenario - you have to learn to trust your experience and the
> wisdom that comes from it.
>
> Understanding what catabatic air is and how to plan for it is crucial.
> I think Warner Springs Monty should chime in here because he's in the
> sub-5lb range, and has to take into consideration environmental stuff to
> survive that the rest of us have yet to consider....  You will never
> have to think as hard about this as Monty has already thought.
>
> Monty???
>
> "Jeff, just Jeff" said in the same cadence as , "Bond, James Bond."
>
>
>
>
> Jesse Saks wrote:
>> Hey everybody,
>> I am planning on a thru of the pct North bound.
>> I have a westernmountaineering apache mf 15 that is a 2000 model
>> which is 2.6 on my scale.
>> I would say that i am a slightly cold sleeper.
>> so my question would it be worth the weight savings and still not
>> suffer often to get a bag like the
>> WM Summer Lite, considering these variables.
>> I will carry a Big Agnes mummy insulated air core pad
>> I could sleep in my wool thermal underwear and WM flight
>> Plus my shelter is a Rainbow.
>> I would think that i could make the sweet weight savings of the
>> Summer Lite work with all that
>> insulation.
>> But then again I might be overlooking some variables that I would
>> want to consider
>> Any info would be appreciated
>> thanks
>> Fix-it
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saks
>> jessesaks72 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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