[pct-l] Dogs on the trail

Wed Feb 18 00:00:18 CST 2009

Jason, this will be my final word to you on anyone else about dogs or any other such nonsense.

I tried to give you perspective, and others, on why they are so pissed off about dogs attacking them.  I tried to give you some perspective, and insight, on why it might be useful to share the input and insight from a person's point of view who's been attacked several, and I mean several times.  Believe me, teeth tearing into my flesh, and the subsequent unpleasant interaction with the owner isn't my idea of a fun day or week for that matter, so I have brought up concerns.  I imagine similar run ins are why others opined so willingly, too.

Now, I guess I could retaliate against your statements, but maybe the tone of what I wrote
wasn't conveyed well.  Sorry if my statements were a bit too harsh for you to handle.  In any case, I think any posts up
until you put your couple out there today were in the spirit of giving
input and insight to other hikers.  While my messages, Bob's, etc., the jabs including how tasty dog meat is out on trail (obvious levity in my opinion) could have been more
tactful or softer or more PC or whatever you might say about them, they
weren't personal attacks.  Oh, and I'm not a braggart.  But, let's just say I am and go on with it.  Let's say the other people who chimed in are weak and can't hike 200 miles.  Ok.  I'm sure they have their feelings hurt, too, now.  I'll never meet you anyway.  I'm fine with knowing there is a person in the world who thinks I'm a toolbox.  So be it.

You've thrown bad words my way.  Boo hoo.  

Sticks and stones, Dude  

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From: jason moores <jmmoores at hotmail.com>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:47:10 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dogs on the trail

Buzz off Fuzz.

My loudmouth comment was posted over and hour before monty listed his stories. My comments were directed at people making threats against dogs/owners. Although my comments were not directed at you, they are now. You are a loudmouth and a braggart. And I'll tell ya: I don't give a f**K if you carry more than pepper spray, tough guy. 

jason

> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:59:29 -0800
> From: fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dogs on the trail
> 
> In case you want a read on who here is a loudmouth or a bragger, if being chased down by 7 dogs or cornered into a bee's hive is bragging in your opinion, and I'm not saying you are saying it is, keep in mind that the comments being made on here are very worthwhile.  When a guy has a list that is long, and it's only a partial list, of the bad encounters he's had with dogs, I think that by sharing that people, especially dog owners, could gain some perspective on what it's like to have Dobermans growling and cornering you while the owners are nowhere in site.  It also makes for being able to avoid some dangerous and possibly sad situations.  I have heard Bob loud and clear about his stance on how attacking dogs would be treated.  He didn't have to give you that insight.  I don't have to give you mine.  Again, by all means, if you think your dog can handle being out on the trail, that is awesome.  I'm sure it would be fun to have your dog out there.  I
 can
>  imagine having one out there if I had the time to actually own a dog.  I can understand, see your point of view, etc.  For me, though, being attacked is being attacked.  Period.  Bob, I, and others are just trying to let you know it's not ok that the dog attacks because you don't believe it would attack, and because there is a human somewhere that gets it its shots and calls it by a name.  
> 
> This loudmouth for one can hang on the trail, and has, for 100 miles a day at times.  That's not a brag, it's a fact.  I also carry more than pepper spray or a trekking pole.
> 
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> From: jason moores <jmmoores at hotmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:41:53 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Dogs on the trail
> 
> 
> "Vitriolic Crusader," nice. Very nice.
> 
> A few other things to consider here, per Eric's comments: Most of the "vitriolic" posters to this list wont be on the trail this year. Also, I find that loudmouths tend to be weaklings in the end. More than a few will drop off the trail in first 200 miles. Hell, I might not make it either.
> 
> The people that I would consider people of action, seldom talk or brag. They Do. I wouldn't let the posturing of a few deter you from bringing your pup. If your dog is as well behaved as you say, don't sweat it. Have a fun walk.
> 
> jason
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