[pct-l] Bear stories?
CHUCK CHELIN
steeleye at wildblue.net
Thu Feb 26 09:51:50 CST 2009
That depends upon whether he was a guest or an entree?
Steel-Eye
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:15 AM, susan <woodswitch at hughes.net> wrote:
> I had bear for Thanksgiving Dinner, does that count?
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> 1. Re: Anyone have bear or mountain lion stories? (patti kulesz)
> 2. Re: Mojave & Tehachapi (patti kulesz)
> 3. Re: Mojave & Tehachapi (patti kulesz)
> 4. Billy Goat on the cover of the PCTA Communicator
> (Reinhold Metzger)
> 5. Re: time before peanut butter goes bad (CHUCK CHELIN)
> 6. Re: Powdered Foods - Was Resupply (dicentra)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:05:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Anyone have bear or mountain lion stories?
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Reinhold Metzger
> <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
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> silly Reinhold....I am a very sarcastic person sometimes...ok most of the
> time...
>
> patti
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net> wrote:
>
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Anyone have bear or mountain lion stories?
> To: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:44 PM
>
>
> > Say Fuzz,
> > You sure it wasn't a moose?
> > Bears usually walk rather quietly and don't make heavy stomping noises
> > wile walking.
> > That is why you usually are not aware they are visiting until they
> > start messing with your food or gear.
> >
> > I have lots of bear stories I could tell but, perhaps they are best
> > told around a campfire with glowing eyes, in the dark, all around.
> >
> > Pattie,
> > You seem to think that having a bear visit your camp site is going to
> > be sooo romantic and exiting? and you want to attract them to your
> > camp site for the experience.
> > Pattie, as any Sierra veteran can tell you, a bear visiting your camp
> > site is not necesarily going to be a romantic and exiting
> > experience......it could be a real nightmare and I would strongly
> > encourage you to do any thing you can to avoid such encounters instead
> > of inviting bears to your camp site.
> >
> > JMT Reinhold
> > A Sierra veteran with many bear stories to tell
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > Pattie wrote:
> >> oo bad bad bad...u can make the critters sick that way...but maybe,
> >> since I haven't had a sighting yet, I can just leave the empty bag on
> >> the table...woohoo! thanx for the idea Fuzz hehehe
> >>
> >> patti
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Fuzz McPherson <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com
> >> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Fuzz McPherson <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com
> >> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
> >> Subject: [pct-l] anyone have bear or mountain lion stories?
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>
> >> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:36 AM
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any bear or mountain lion stories?
> >>
> >> At a campground in the Coast Range between Portland and Tillamook, so
> >> not on the PCT, after having some beers and burgers, I went to sleep
> >> in the tent having left part of a bag of chips out on the picknick
> >> table.? I know, that's not very bright.? In the night I was woken up
> >> by heavy stepping sounds.? It sounded as if a really big heavy guy
> >> with workboots was plodding around the table and then off down the
> >> very short trail towards the river.? After a few minutes of listening
> >> further I didn't hear anything else so I went back to sleep.? In the
> >> morning I found the chip bag on the ground in the bushes near the
> >> trail to the river.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:14:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> To: Pat Wormington <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net, montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
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> u don't need to hitch to Mojave...there are trail angels who will pick up
> and drop off at the TH
>
>
>
> Tehachapi Trail Angels
>
> Ann Marie and George Novinger? (Chairmen of the Tehachapi Trail Angles
> 661-822-5379.
>
> They will give you a ride to and from the TH. Make sure you specify which
> one you are at when you call b/c there are two.
>
> George is at the Apple Shed (yummy food) alot and that # is 661-823-8333.
>
>
> patti
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, montypct <montypct at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> To: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 5:31 PM
>
> I've resupplied in Tehachapi a few times.? Great town for finding things a
> hiker needs.? It's very, very spread out.
>
> Last year doing a buy-as-you-go strategy I tried Mojave for my first time.
> I got a ride to Motel 6.? It has a great supermarket right there next to
> it.
>
> Laundry was a short walk from my motel room.? There was a library right
> there with internet access, but it was closed.? Resupply was easy and done
> in no time.? There was lots of good food cheap at an order over the counter
> place next to the motel.? I don't remember a better quick buy-as-you-go
> town
>
> experience.
>
> A Tehachapi resident friend still ended up picking me up at Hwy 58 the next
> day after I hiked another 7 miles.? I went into Tehachapi, saw a movie, had
> good coffee and vegetarian food at the local coffee house, and returned to
> the trail the next morning.
>
> I've never had an easy hitch to anywhere in this area.
>
> Hitching Hwy 58 into Tehachapi cuts a 25 mile waterless stretch into only
> 18
>
> miles to Golden Oaks Springs when you return.? In 2007 it took 2 hours to
> get a ride with a ride bride, Not-a-Moose.? The post office, a motel and a
> Denny's (and a gas station for Heet) are all right there at the highway
> exit.? Sending resupply you could be in and out of town without having to
> walk the miles required to get around Tehachapi.? Just north of Hwy 58 on
> the trail is a very long exposed climb that you do with full water and
> resupply.? Starting back at Hwy 58 you can more accurately plan that climb
> at a cooler time and start out with a slightly lighter pack.
>
>
>
>
> Lightweight Backpacking
> The fun goes up when the weight goes down
> -Warner Springs Monty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>
> To: <janetgr at cableone.net>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:23 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
>
>
> > If you have a choice Tehachapi is much nicer.? I lucked out and caught a
> > ride.? The afternoon bus also stops there on the way to Bakersfield.
> > Also better food .? They have a coffee house, Mama Hillybeans, and at
> > City Slickers the? food was awesome, huge gourmet hamburger big enough
> > for two and 12 beer taps.? I hope to take my husband back there
> > sometime.? There is also another restaurant across from Mama's I can't
> > remember the name, where I had breakfast.? For hikers getting off at
> > Cottonwood Creek, taking Rosamond Blvd. to Rosamond, the M & G Cafe is
> > diagonally across from the PO on a side street, which also has the
> > senior center farther down the same street, and a county transit bus
> > stop.? The Center also has bathrooms you can use to clean up, especially
> > after spending the night in a wind storm with a face plastered with dirt.
> >
> > I stayed in Mojave two nights section hiking, and would not again.? I
> > believe it was Day's Inn in Mojave that will pick you up.? There's
> > nothing to do in that town except get a haircut, and the grocery store
> > isn't handy.? Enjoy your hike.
> >
> > Jollylopper
> > Sierra Valley
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:15:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> To: Pat Wormington <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net, montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
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> sorry I meant u don't need to hitch to Tehachapi
>
> patti
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> To: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net, "montypct" <montypct at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:14 PM
>
> u don't need to hitch to Mojave...there are trail angels who will pick up
> and drop off at the TH
>
>
>
> Tehachapi Trail Angels
>
> Ann Marie and George Novinger? (Chairmen of the Tehachapi Trail Angles
> 661-822-5379.
>
> They will give you a ride to and from the TH. Make sure you specify which
> one you are at when you call b/c there are two.
>
> George is at the Apple Shed (yummy food) alot and that # is 661-823-8333.
>
>
> patti
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, montypct <montypct at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> To: "Pat Wormington"
> <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 5:31 PM
>
> I've resupplied in Tehachapi a few times.? Great town for finding things a
> hiker needs.? It's very, very spread out.
>
> Last year doing a buy-as-you-go strategy I tried Mojave for my first time.
> I got a ride to Motel 6.? It has a great supermarket right there next to
> it.
>
> Laundry was a short walk from my motel room.? There was a library right
> there with internet access, but it was closed.? Resupply was easy and done
> in no time.? There was lots of good food cheap at an order over the counter
> place next to the motel.? I don't remember a better quick buy-as-you-go
> town
>
> experience.
>
> A Tehachapi resident friend still ended up picking me up at Hwy 58 the next
> day after I hiked another 7 miles.? I went into Tehachapi, saw a movie,
> had
> good coffee and vegetarian food at the local coffee house, and returned to
> the trail the next morning.
>
> I've never had an easy hitch to anywhere in this area.
>
> Hitching Hwy 58 into Tehachapi cuts a 25 mile waterless stretch into only
> 18
>
> miles to Golden Oaks Springs when you return.? In 2007 it took 2 hours to
> get a ride with a ride bride, Not-a-Moose.? The post office, a motel and a
> Denny's (and a gas station for Heet) are all right there at the highway
> exit.? Sending resupply you could be in and out of town without having to
> walk the miles required to get around Tehachapi.? Just north of Hwy 58 on
> the trail is a very long exposed climb that you do with full water and
> resupply.? Starting back at Hwy 58 you can more accurately plan that climb
> at a cooler time and start out with a slightly lighter pack.
>
>
>
>
> Lightweight Backpacking
> The fun goes up when the
> weight goes down
> -Warner Springs Monty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>
> To: <janetgr at cableone.net>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:23 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
>
>
> > If you have a choice Tehachapi is much nicer.? I lucked out and caught a
> > ride.? The afternoon bus also stops there on the way to Bakersfield.
> > Also better food .? They have a coffee house, Mama Hillybeans, and at
> > City Slickers the? food was awesome, huge gourmet hamburger big enough
> > for two and 12 beer taps.? I hope to take my husband
> back there
> > sometime.? There is also another restaurant across from Mama's I can't
> > remember the name, where I had breakfast.? For hikers getting off at
> > Cottonwood Creek, taking Rosamond Blvd. to Rosamond, the M & G Cafe is
> > diagonally across from the PO on a side street, which also has the
> > senior center farther down the same street, and a county transit bus
> > stop.? The Center also has bathrooms you can use to clean up, especially
> > after spending the night in a wind storm with a face plastered with dirt.
> >
> > I stayed in Mojave two nights section hiking, and would not again.? I
> > believe it was Day's Inn in Mojave that will pick you up.? There's
> > nothing to do in that town except get a haircut, and the grocery store
> > isn't handy.? Enjoy your hike.
> >
> > Jollylopper
> > Sierra Valley
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:43:27 -0800
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Billy Goat on the cover of the PCTA Communicator
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>, Reinhold
> Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
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> Hi gang,
> I have received several inquiries about seeing Billy Goat's picture
> gracing the February cover of the PCT Communicator.
> Click the below link in Deem's February 18 post to access Deem's Photo
> Galleries, then click ''all galleries'' and you will
> see Billy Goat's picture high lighting the ''High Sierra Gallery''
> ------------------------------.
>
> [pct-l] Dogs on the trail (and thru-dogs) *Deems* losthiker at
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> Monty,
> I empathize with your dog encounters. With the mega miles you've hiked, you
> will no doubt have increased dog interactions. May they all be friendly.
> Last August I met a thruhiker in Washington, named Salty, and captured a
> photo of a notorious trail dog attacking a thruhiker. Take a deep breath
> before opening the photo...
> http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/image/102495801
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:33:53 -0800
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] time before peanut butter goes bad
> To: Zoli Bassoff <zolish at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
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> Good morning, Zoli,
>
> If I receive a resupply box it will have been packed about two to three
> weeks before I use it. When I call home from a trail town my next box will
> already be at, or on the way to, the next stop. What I then do is specify
> where my stop-after-next box should be sent, the number of trail-days
> projected, and the number of Calories per day that it should contain. That
> way the food is in transit and stored for two weeks, and it could be in my
> pack for another week. Peanut butter, and most hard cheeses and salami,
> will tolerate that OK.
>
>
>
> At home I much prefer the taste of the all-natural, no-preventives, PB, but
> for resupply boxes I use the name-brand stuff that?s chock full of
> preventives to keep it from going funky. Yummy.
>
>
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT -- 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Zoli Bassoff <zolish at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Reading the post of ideas for storing peanut butter. I was considering
> the
> > idea. If one has to pack up the food boxes months in advance how does one
> > pack peanut butter in seperate packages and not have it go bad. Does the
> > person mailing the boxes give a hand with the fresh peanut butter and
> > cheese items in the food boxes.
> >
> > thanks
> > zoli
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:05:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
> To: Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <398721.31902.qm at web56702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> **hangs head in shame**
>
> OH NO!!! It's all my fault!!!
> ?
> LOL!
> ?
> ~Dicentra
>
>
> http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ <http://www.onepanwonders.com/?~>Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
>
> ?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
> To: "patti kulesz" <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>, "dicentra"
> <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:42 PM
>
>
> Headline:
> Young woman hiking the Pacific Crack Trail lands ends travels in rehab.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "patti kulesz" <
> peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> To: "dicentra" <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
>
>
> OMG I love u! thanx for telling me about the powdered coconut creme
> milk...coconut milk and surry are like crack to me...I'm drooling
> now...hehehe
>
> patti
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
> To: "dicentra" <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:23 PM
>
> Well poo! I put links in that big long post... they didn't show up for some
> reason... I have a whole page on my site that lists all the resources. With
> working links.
>
> Sorry!
>
> ~Dicentra
>
>
> http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
> To: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:17 PM
>
>
> Hey! Something I know a little something about! Food!!!
>
> I generally get my cheese powder from WinCo. - There's one in Kent, WA.
>
> Harmony House Foods has tomato powder. A little bit goes a LONG way. They
> have dried beans and lentils too... you could make your own bean powder
> from
> that, I suppose.
>
> Packit Gourmet has all kinds of powders... butter powder (the full fat
> kind), several kinds of cheese powder, beet powder, wine powder (not for
> drinking - I tried it, ick!), soy sauce powder, molasses powder, carrot
> powder, honey powder, egg powder (several kinds), maple powder, peanut
> butter powder, shortening, sour cream, yogurt, tomato, True
> Lemon/Lime/Orange (I love that stuff!)...
>
> They have a HUGE selection. From full on meals to dried veggies to shelf
> stable meats. Everything I've tried from them is good! Plus they have
> awesome customer service (tell them Dicentra sent ya!)
>
> Fantastic Foods makes instant black beans, refried beans and hummus. Just
> add water. The falafal and tabbouleh from them is good too.
>
> Powdered butter - aka Molly McButter or Butter Buds can be found either
> with
> the popcorn or with the spices in your regular grocery store.
>
> Powdered milk - look for Nido It comes in a yellow can and is a full fat
> product. Usually in the Hispanic section of the store. I can almost always
> find it at Albertsons. (milkman is no longer - I'm sad). I recently found a
> full fat powdered milk by Backpacker's Pantry, but I haven't tasted it
> yet....
>
> Coconut Creme Powder - full of fat and calories! Great for adding to Thai
> dishes or breakfast cereal. Sarah at Freezerbag cooking carries it. So does
> Packit Gourmet. I find it at the Asian grocery and at the (yuppy) really
> well stocked grocery stores that have a big Asian foods section...
>
> Whew. That's a lotta info. I hope it is helpful... Feel free to ask me if
> you are looking for a product. I can generally find just about anything
> food
> related. lol.
>
>
> ~Dicentra
>
> http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
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