[pct-l] time before peanut butter goes bad

[Zoli Bassoff]

thank you all for your tremendous help

zoli

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:52 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:

> Good morning, Romano,
>
>
>
> There is a good map at:
> http://www.sierrawildbear.gov/foodstorage/foodstoragemap.htm
>
> showing the bear ‘can area.  Every year Sierra Interagency Black Bear
> Group (SIBBG) at: http://www.sierrawildbear.gov/ seems to fiddle with the
> requirements a bit so it will pay to keep current.  What is more difficult
> is getting a feel for the administrative practices of compliance enforcement
> across all those agencies, jurisdictions, and individual compliance
> officials.
>
>
>
> Regardless of the map, my practice is to receive a bear ‘can at the
> southern-most convenient spot -- Kennedy Meadows -- and get rid of it where
> I resupply north of Tuolumne Meadows – usually at Echo.
>
>
>
> Yeh, it’s a pain, but I do it anyway.  First, I’m a person who follows the
> rules.  Second, I don’t like having to dodge around and hike looking over
> my shoulder worrying about black bears or Smoky Bears.  Third, I don’t
> like having to sweet-talk, or argue with, the chipmunk-cops. And finally, I
> don’t want to pay a fine and be kicked-out in the likely event that I lose
> the argument.
>
>
>
> My gear is minimal so I like to keep my empty pack weight around one pound
> or less.  I normally use the now-obsolete GoLite Breeze which weighs about
> 13 oz.  In ’07 I did switch to a 16-oz. GVP-4 for the Sierras because my
> bear ‘can fit crosswise in the bottom, but I am not particularly fond of the
> way it fits me.  Next time I’ll just carry the ‘can upright in the Breeze.
> The additional weight of the ‘can is mostly compensated by the reduced need
> to carry extra water.
>
>
>
> A Sierra entry date depends greatly on that year’s snow season, and upon
> your particular appetite for snow travel.  Keep watching the snow plot at:
> http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/products/PLOT_SWC.2009.pdf .  So far,
> ’09 looks to be somewhat below average for snowpack but it’s still early.
> What you have to do is estimate where the curve will be early to mid-June.
>  ’07 was a very low snow year.  I departed Kennedy Meadows 29 May and
> arrived at Echo mid-day of 19 June.  I lost two hiking days resupplying at
> Independence and about a half-day at VVR.  In that period there was
> minimal snowpack, and the rivers were manageable.
>
>
>
> Good luck with your planning,
>
>
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT -- 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>
>
>   On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Romano Scaturro <
> romano at swiftwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Steel Eye--
>>
>> That sounds like good advice, which you seem to have no shortage of.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I'm wondering at what point, going north bound, a bear cannister should be
>> acquired or, if one is needed at all?  I hiked the JMT 4 years ago with one
>> and it was really bulky and heavy.  I cursed it often but did find it useful
>> as a camp stool and washing machine.
>>
>> Also, whats your preference for backpacks?  I currently have an old NF
>> Snowleopard which Ive been using for the last 25 years.
>>
>> And lastly, what's the earliest you think one should arrive to the central
>> Ca. section, namely the JMT portion?  I remember that even in July Forrester
>> Pass had quite a bit of snow.
>>
>> Romano
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>> To: "Zoli Bassoff" <zolish at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] time before peanut butter goes bad
>>
>>
>>  Good morning, Zoli,
>>
>> If I receive a resupply box it will have been packed about two to three
>> weeks before I use it.  When I call home from a trail town my next box
>> will
>> already be at, or on the way to, the next stop.  What I then do is specify
>> where my stop-after-next box should be sent, the number of trail-days
>> projected, and the number of Calories per day that it should contain.
>>  That
>> way the food is in transit and stored for two weeks, and it could be in my
>> pack for another week.  Peanut butter, and most hard cheeses and salami,
>> will tolerate that OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> At home I much prefer the taste of the all-natural, no-preventives, PB,
>> but
>> for resupply boxes I use the name-brand stuff that’s chock full of
>> preventives to keep it from going funky.  Yummy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steel-Eye
>>
>> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT -- 1965
>>
>> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Zoli Bassoff <zolish at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Reading the post of ideas for storing peanut butter. I was considering the
>>> idea. If one has to pack up the food boxes months in advance how does one
>>> pack peanut butter in seperate packages and not have it go bad. Does the
>>> person mailing the boxes give a hand with the fresh peanut butter and
>>> cheese items in the food boxes.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> zoli
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