[pct-l] TP ???

[Will Hiltz]

For those of you longer-time list members you might remember the "poopy
rocks" thread.  I won't subject you to that again but I agree with what
several others have said:

Burying TP, no matter what it looks like in your backyard, is not proper
wilderness practice.  If you must use TP, you must take it with you.
Odor-proof plastic bags would be a good idea in bear country.  If you can't
stand the thought of carrying used TP, then use what nature gives you...


YITOOD,

Easy

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Phil Newhouse <newhoupa1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> People packing "it" out:  what is the prescription for overnight storage in
> Bear Country?
>
> phil
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Michael Chamoun <nano.michael at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Pack it out. that simple.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > well the dog poop is picked up b/c it's the law apparently...dog's
> don't
> > > eat organic and it keeps the natural critters away from their natural
> > > habitat...in another words...they smell the dog poop and then stay away
> > form
> > > where they should be....maybe we should start putting dog poop around
> the
> > > camps so the bears stay away..LOL JK
> > >
> > > patti
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 1/24/09, David Margavage <davidmargavage at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: David Margavage <davidmargavage at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] TP ???
> > > To: "sue.kettles at comcast.net" <sue.kettles at comcast.net>,
> > > Pct-l at backcountry.net
> > > Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 7:51 PM
> > >
> > > I think they pick up the dog poop so we don't step in it I think?  But
> > I'm
> > > with you about biodegradable paper.
> > >
> > > On 1/24/09, sue.kettles at comcast.net <sue.kettles at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please don't jump all over me, because I really would like to know.
>  In
> > > 20
> > > > years of backpacking, I have never had that happen... digging a hole
> > and
> > > > finding something.  Guess I'm just lucky.  When I did a trial bury of
> > TP
> > > in
> > > > my back yard, in the fall, by spring, it was pretty well
> disintegrated.
> > > (I
> > > > do live in Oregon - so it rains alot here)  It is a tree source after
> > > all...
> > > > and if its not perfumed and colored, whats the big deal burying it
> the
> > > right
> > > > depth if in the right terrain??  I don't want to be ignorant, but I
> > don't
> > > > want to do something that is maybe, at this moment, the new "right
> > way".
> > > > Like people picking up their dog crap in plastic bags and putting it
> in
> > > the
> > > > garbage can?  How is that supposed to help the environment when it
> will
> > > take
> > > > much longer to decompose in a landfill in that plastic baggy.
>  Someone
> > > with
> > > > knowlege,...please,  I'd love to understand.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "patti kulesz" <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: afishnamedcarl at gmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net, "AsABat"
> > > > <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:29:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> > Eastern
> > > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] TP ???
> > > >
> > > > it really sux too when one tries to find a spot to go and digs up a
> > bunch
> > > > of someone else's TP and ...well u know....
> > > >
> > > > patti
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sat, 1/24/09, AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> > > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] TP ???
> > > > To: afishnamedcarl at gmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> > > > Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 5:32 PM
> > > >
> > > > It's very easy to put the used TP in a ziploc-type back and pack it
> > out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Burying it in the hole gets ugly when a critter digs it up (yes, they
> > > > do), or rain washes just enough soil away to reveal the TP streamer.
> > > >
> > > > Burning it is a really bad idea. I thruhiker started a wildfire a
> > couple
> > > > years ago doing that.
> > > >
> > > > AsABat
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  What's the deal with TP. Pack in pack out or leave it in the
> whole.
> > > > > Obviously taking it out is better but no one likes carring used tp
> > > > with
> > > > > them.
> > > >
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