[pct-l] Poison Oak Immunization

kcristler kerouc at verizon.net
Wed Jan 28 14:29:19 CST 2009


his pay from royal dutch shell , no doubt!
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From: <herbstroh at charter.net>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Poison Oak Immunization


Oh NO!!! I am already on my third dose!

Fortunately, I have all that money coming from the Nigerian diplomat who
needs to sneak money out of his country.....oops, that was supposed to be a
secret!

Original Message:
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From: Thomas Jamrog balrog at midcoast.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:16:47 -0500
To: georwy at charter.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Poison Oak Immunization


This is not good advice, and should not be posted, as it encourages
others to do something that could cause severe distress and physical
harm.
I was hiking with someone who tried doing this same procedure with
poison ivy  in 2007.  He had been coached in doing it by a fellow who
was an "expert in native American " medicine.  He did the same
procedure, ingesting a small leaf of poison ivy, waiting a day,
checking, taking another one until he was ended up in the emergency
room with a severe reaction, all over his body, inside and out. I
never saw him again.   It happened after he ingested three times.  I
can verify this was true.
It was characterized as one of the  the dumbest things that anyone had
ever heard of.
Uncle Tom



On Jan 27, 2009, at 4:01 PM, George Wysup wrote:

>> - - - and poison oak leaves. Start with a very small leaf. Using
>> the tweezers, carefully pluck it from the branch and looking in the
>> mirror, carefully place it in the middle of your tongue.
>> Immediately swallow it with two glasses of water. Whatever you do
>> don't chew it or allow it to mix with your saliva. You could get
>> P.O. blisters on your lips. I had a little of this the first time.
>> Now wait three days and see if you have any reaction. If not,( I
>> did'nt ) then do it with a larger leaf and wait three days again.
>> If still no reaction continue this until you have swallowed five
>> leaves. By then you will, most likely be immune to P.O.<
>
>    Is anyone actually going to try this? When I was growing up in So
> Cal, around 1949, some MDs actually made money trying to immunize PO
> sufferers using a technique similar to the above (only more
> controlled). They don't do this any more. Guess why not. IT DOESN'T
> WORK! Most folks understand that repeated exposure to an allergen
> actually increases the sensitivity. Think about it. Have you ever
> heard of bee sting immunization? Peanut butter immunization? Hives?
> Psoriasis? Celiac disease? I suspect you have not - and for good
> reason. Your body's immune system does not build antibodies for PO
> allergen.
>    It may not be harmful to try this. Id guess that the digestive
> fluids actually digest the rhus oil before it can cause a reaction.
> [Maybe what you need on the PCT is a gallon of stomach acid.] If
> this trick seems to work, it's likely because the "experimenter"
> has, by now, learned to recognize and avoid the PO. Better you try
> using Skunk brush as a placebo instead of the real thing.
>    Maybe accupuncture or chiropractic will do the job.
>    Yep; the dead-looking branches can be as deadly as the leaves,
> and they are harder to ID as poison oak. Helpful hint for the guys:
> after possible contact with PO, clean your hands before peeing. I
> learned this the hard way.
> George
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