[pct-l] Cramming a BV450

[patti kulesz]

yeh but they're not allowed in the sierras which is the only place u need the canister...I think they are smaller too. If a ranger asks you to see the canister which some can be buttheads about...u'll be escorted off the trail and possibly fined...it's not worth it I'm thinking.

patti

--- On Sat, 1/31/09, Michael Chamoun <nano.michael at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Michael Chamoun <nano.michael at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cramming a BV450
To: "Erik The Black" <erik at eriktheblack.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 9:43 PM

I think I'm on board with you on that Erik.  I have an Ursack (with the
liner though) sitting in my closet.  I used it on the JMT in '06 and it
worked perfectly.  It fits 7-8days of food and weighs (with aluminum liner)
19 oz.  A whole lot better than the current (gulp)... 40 oz!

Nano

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Erik The Black <erik at eriktheblack.com>wrote:

> I carried the larger BV500 (or whatever they called the big one back then)
> through the Sierra in '07, and could barely fit four days of food inside!
>
> Of course anyone who has read my blog knows that I'm a hearty eater. I
> can't
> imagine eating only 2,500 calories a day. Especially in the high Sierra -
> the steepest, rockiest, toughest, snowiest, mosquitoeiest, highest section
> of the whole trail. That stretch, more than any other, calls for big-time
> calorie consumption!
>
> In the future I will use an Ursack. I know they aren't "officially
> approved"
> but I don't really care that much about meeting requirements and following
> rules. I just want a practical way to keep bears out of my food.
>
> It would take a really determined bear to break into an Ursack. Plus, with
> all the "low hanging fruit" from JMT hikers camping by the lakes, roasting
> marshmallows and frying fish over the campfire, there are a lot more
> attractive targets for the lazy Sierra bears.
>
> Smoky would really have to have a craving for your stale Ramen noodles to
> hike way up into the mountains where you're dry-camped and gnaw through a
> Vectran bag for an hour and a half to get to it.
>
> An Ursack only weighs about 8 ounces and holds almost a much as the big
> Bearvault. Two of them combined fit perfectly in the top of most packs, and
> that gives you 1,300 cubic inches of "almost" bear-proof food storage, for
> only 1 pound of extra weight.
>
> My Bear Vault is now a container for storing loose change ;)
>
>
> -Erik The Black
> www.eriktheblack.com
>
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