[pct-l] Jet Boil igniter

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Sat Mar 7 22:09:39 CST 2009


Last summer the igniter on my JB stopped working. I bought a new one but before I installed it I tried the old one... Blam it worked. 
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Today's Topics:

   1. PCTA Job Opportunity (Donna "L-Rod" Saufley)
   2. Re: Printing Maps (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
   3. Re: Printing Maps (Vincent Rupp)
   4. Re: Humor - Don't Challenge a Woman (CHUCK CHELIN)
   5. Re: Printing Maps (Scott Bryce)
   6. Re: Printing Maps (Sean Nordeen)
   7. Re: Printing Maps (CHUCK CHELIN)
   8. Re: Jetboil Igniter life (Bruce Harvey)
   9. Scouts as PCT hikers on their way to FireFly's Hideaway at
      Old Station (Georgi Heitman)
  10. Re: Jetboil Igniter life (montypct)
  11. Re: Jetboil Igniter life (JIM BANKS)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:04:02 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: "Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
Subject: [pct-l] PCTA Job Opportunity
To: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
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Job Announcement
February 10, 2009

The Pacific Crest Trail Association (PCTA), headquartered in Sacramento, is dedicated to protecting, preserving and promoting the Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail.  Currently, we have the following job opening:
Managing Editor
The Managing Editor is a professional, half-time position.  The Managing Editor oversees all phases of the production process for the Pacific Crest Trail Communicator, a 30-page, full-color magazine published by the Pacific Crest Trail Association.  The magazine is typically offered six times per year, including a calendar issue.  Articles are written by PCTA staff, volunteers, agency partners, and the Managing Editor.  We are seeking an individual with the following qualifications:

?	Five years of professional editing experience for print publications
?	Strong professional experience in the publishing industry including work as a writer, copyeditor, editor, and manager
?	Ability to work independently
?	In-depth knowledge of the Pacific Crest Trail and the trails community is highly desirable

If you are interested in working on behalf of the Pacific Crest Trail, please send a cover letter, resume, writing samples and references by March 20, 2009 to:

Liz Bergeron, Executive Director
Pacific Crest Trail Association
5325 Elkhorn Blvd, #256
Sacramento, CA  95842-2526


For a full job description, please visit www.pcta.org

 
Pacific Crest Trail Association is an Equal Opportunity Provider



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:18:32 -0800
From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Printing Maps
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:51 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> Several hikers who don't have access to suitable printers have
> contacted me about how to get maps printed and I am trying to find  a
> way to help with this....
> The problem is it takes my printer about five hours to print a set of
> maps, and  I am concerned about having time to print more than 15 sets
> of maps....
> -Halfmile

Halfmile, maybe you could find a way to produce your maps as a  
single, multi-page PDF file and then if anyone wants to download it,  
they can take the file to Kinko's or a similar place and have them  
printed there. Just a thought.

Diane



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:30:09 -0800
From: Vincent Rupp <vincent.rupp at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Printing Maps
To: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I tried that, but the crooks at Kinko's wanted $125+. It was something like
42 cents a page if you print more than 250 pages.

Refilling the cartridges repeatedly at the mall kiosk, I got the cost
(including the initial color cartridge) under $50, plus $10 for the better
quality paper.

The cheapest option is probably for Half-Mile to go into the printing
business. Even selling at twice his cost, it'd be a favorable transaction
for most people with regular printers.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <
diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:51 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> > Several hikers who don't have access to suitable printers have
> > contacted me about how to get maps printed and I am trying to find  a
> > way to help with this....
> > The problem is it takes my printer about five hours to print a set of
> > maps, and  I am concerned about having time to print more than 15 sets
> > of maps....
> > -Halfmile
>
> Halfmile, maybe you could find a way to produce your maps as a
> single, multi-page PDF file and then if anyone wants to download it,
> they can take the file to Kinko's or a similar place and have them
> printed there. Just a thought.
>
> Diane
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:35:07 -0800
From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Humor - Don't Challenge a Woman
To: hiker97 at aol.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I sat next to those two at the bar once and overheard her ask, "Honey, am I
your first love?"
He thought for a moment then replied, "Well, maybe -- you do look kinda
familiar."

Steel-Eye

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:09 AM, <hiker97 at aol.com> wrote:

>
> Our intrepid PCT hiking hero, Grizzly, likes to save all his energy for the
> trail. Fixing things around the house was a low priority. One day the lawn
> mower broke.
>
> His wife and trail partner, TrailDust, kept hinting for him to get the
> mower fixed and cut the over grown lawn.
>
> But?Grizzly somehow always had something else to take care of first; the
> hiking gear, the truck, the visit down to the local hiker trash saloon to
> have some fellowship with his hiking bros.
>
> Finally TrailDust thought of a clever way to make her point.
>
> When Grizzly arrived home one day, he found her seated in the tall grass,
> busily snipping away with a tiny pair of sewing scissors.
>
> He watched silently for a short time and then went into the house. He was
> gone only a minute, and when he came out again he handed her a toothbrush.
>
> Grizzly said, "When you finish cutting the grass, you might as well sweep
> the driveway."
>
> The doctors say he will be out of the hospital and be able to hike again in
> about two weeks.?
>
>
> Remember,?a hiker marriage is a relationship in which one person is always
> right, and the other is the?husband.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:04:16 -0700
From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Printing Maps
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Vincent Rupp wrote:

> The cheapest option is probably for Half-Mile to go into the printing
>  business. Even selling at twice his cost, it'd be a favorable
> transaction for most people with regular printers.

I have a single color laser printer. I suspect printing the maps in
grayscale would be the cheapest option, but the trail is hard to see in
some places in grayscale. I have printed the first map. Following the
trail through downtown (such as it is) Campo is difficult in grayscale
due to the nearby roads. The section where the trail is on the road was
one of the few places where I actually got confused as I was hiking.

Anyway, that is something that someone might try.


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:29:24 -0800
From: "Sean Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Printing Maps
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Printing grayscale is the cheapest method.  I have a 11 year old B&W laser printer that I'm only on the 2nd or 3rd cartridge of toner since they last for more then 10K pages and they are really cheap too.  The cost of ink on my Color Laser and my inkjet is much higher and they don't last very long.  As for being able to clearly see the trail amongs the other grayscale lines, I was thinking that a couple of color highlighter pen would be the answer.  Highlight the tail in one color and then highlight any important features (springs etc) in another color.

-Sean

------------------------------------------------
I have a single color laser printer. I suspect printing the maps in
grayscale would be the cheapest option, but the trail is hard to see in
some places in grayscale. I have printed the first map. Following the
trail through downtown (such as it is) Campo is difficult in grayscale
due to the nearby roads. The section where the trail is on the road was
one of the few places where I actually got confused as I was hiking.

Anyway, that is something that someone might try.


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:43:01 -0800
From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Printing Maps
To: Sean Nordeen <sean at lifesadventures.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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	<db9154d0903071343i7001b4f7n70d1250e34edd5a9 at mail.gmail.com>
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Good afternoon, Sean,

I certainly agree with you about highlighting the trail.  I did that on my
Guidebook maps and it makes the trail much easier to quickly pick out amid
all the rest of the black lines on those pages.

Steel-Eye

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Sean Nordeen <sean at lifesadventures.net>wrote:

> Printing grayscale is the cheapest method.  I have a 11 year old B&W laser
> printer that I'm only on the 2nd or 3rd cartridge of toner since they last
> for more then 10K pages and they are really cheap too.  The cost of ink on
> my Color Laser and my inkjet is much higher and they don't last very long.
>  As for being able to clearly see the trail amongs the other grayscale
> lines, I was thinking that a couple of color highlighter pen would be the
> answer.  Highlight the tail in one color and then highlight any important
> features (springs etc) in another color.
>
> -Sean
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> I have a single color laser printer. I suspect printing the maps in
> grayscale would be the cheapest option, but the trail is hard to see in
> some places in grayscale. I have printed the first map. Following the
> trail through downtown (such as it is) Campo is difficult in grayscale
> due to the nearby roads. The section where the trail is on the road was
> one of the few places where I actually got confused as I was hiking.
>
> Anyway, that is something that someone might try.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:44:44 -0800
From: Bruce Harvey <bharve at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jetboil Igniter life
To: muckraker2 at yahoo.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
>  MendoRider/Ed Anderson wrote:
>  I really liked that the Jetboil is so easy to light.
>

Don't expect to carry Jetboil in a backpack, but do own one.  Am  
curious what experience others have had with igniter life.  Mine quit  
after about a dozen uses.  Returned (to REI) and got replacement,  
which has been used perhaps three times.  Have a friend who also has  
igniter no longer working after perhaps fifteen-twenty uses.

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:46:09 -0800
From: Georgi Heitman <bobbnweav at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Scouts as PCT hikers on their way to FireFly's
	Hideaway at	Old Station
To: conniedavis at earthlink.net, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
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C-o-o-l !!!!
Thank you, Lookout and Hugemongous!
FireFly


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:24:39 -0800
From: "montypct" <montypct at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jetboil Igniter life
To: "Bruce Harvey" <bharve at dslextreme.com>,	<muckraker2 at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <31972BE651C74B89B697CDEBE7AF8596 at Monty>
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Hey Geezer
Hike time's almost here!

Jetboil igniter?  A lady backpacking with us last weekend had a new Jetboil.
Right out of the box the igniter did not work.

Still she ate before the rest of us.

Monty



Lightweight Backpacking
The fun goes up when the weight goes down
-Warner Springs Monty

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From: "Bruce Harvey" <bharve at dslextreme.com>
To: <muckraker2 at yahoo.com>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jetboil Igniter life


>
>>
>>  MendoRider/Ed Anderson wrote:
>>  I really liked that the Jetboil is so easy to light.
>>
>
> Don't expect to carry Jetboil in a backpack, but do own one.  Am
> curious what experience others have had with igniter life.  Mine quit
> after about a dozen uses.  Returned (to REI) and got replacement,
> which has been used perhaps three times.  Have a friend who also has
> igniter no longer working after perhaps fifteen-twenty uses.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:30:17 -0800
From: "JIM BANKS" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jetboil Igniter life
To: "Bruce Harvey" <bharve at dslextreme.com>,	<muckraker2 at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Most of the problems with the Jetboil igniter arise due to cracks in the 
ceramic insulating material surrounding the ignition mechanism.  This 
ceramic material tends to be brittle and easily cracked.  If it gets a crack 
in it, it will not work.  Jetboil will replace it for free.  You should 
always carry matches or a lighter, just in case.  I still think it is the 
best stove on the market.  It is a bit heavier than most of the alcohol 
stoves, but because it is so efficient in heating water quickly I think it 
is actually lighter in the long run when you factor in fuel weight, and for 
less than one additional ounce (0.8 ounce) you can add the coffee press, it 
makes a great couple of cups of coffee fast.




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From: "Bruce Harvey" <bharve at dslextreme.com>
To: <muckraker2 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Jetboil Igniter life


>
>>
>>  MendoRider/Ed Anderson wrote:
>>  I really liked that the Jetboil is so easy to light.
>>
>
> Don't expect to carry Jetboil in a backpack, but do own one.  Am
> curious what experience others have had with igniter life.  Mine quit
> after about a dozen uses.  Returned (to REI) and got replacement,
> which has been used perhaps three times.  Have a friend who also has
> igniter no longer working after perhaps fifteen-twenty uses.
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