[pct-l] Hiking from Campo

[Douglas Kriz]

Lindsey,

 

My buddy Mike and I are planning on hitting the trail at Campo on the 13th of May. He's never done any long distance hiking before, so he's nervous about doing the 20 miles to Morena on the first day and thus wants to get started as early in the morning as possible.

If you want to push back your start date three days, you're welcome to join us. If not, I'm sure we'll bump into each other somewhere in the next 2700 miles. The trail is long, but very skinny.

 

Doug 

 

 


 
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> 1. Re: Base Weight Calculation (ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com)
> 2. $500K to PCT (Christa Wellman)
> 3. Re: Times they are a changing (David Thibault)
> 4. Re: Hiking from Campo (Sean Carey)
> 5. Re: $500K to PCT (Ryan Christensen)
> 6. Re: Base Weight Calculation (Paul)
> 7. Shoes, toothpaste (Brian Lewis)
> 8. Re: Journey Steri Pen (Charles W. Davidson)
> 9. Re: Shoes...How is everyone doing the shoes thing? (Sean Carey)
> 10. Clothing in general. (Sean Carey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:48:04 -0700
> From: <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Base Weight Calculation
> To: "Fuzz McPherson" <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com>, "Gary Wright"
> <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> Cc: pctl <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>, LumberJack
> <themtgoat at yahoo.com>, vincent.rupp at gmail.com
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> Good advise for the summer! In the winter the story is a little different. You can build a fire right on the snow, but it will gradually sink. What you get is a great snow pit around which you can sit with the fire right in the middle! To accomplish what you're describing, I'd have to put green logs or something similar around the fire upon which to put the grill and top. Could work, though!
> 
> Mtnned
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Fuzz McPherson 
> To: Gary Wright ; ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com 
> Cc: pctl ; LumberJack ; vincent.rupp at gmail.com 
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Base Weight Calculation
> 
> 
> Hey, when I wanna pack lighter when I go out hunting I figured out you don't need the whole grill! Bring the lid and the grill top. Dig a pit or suround the fire area with rocks. Bring that Weber!
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Base Weight Calculation
> To: "Gary Wright" <gwtmp01 at mac.com>, "Fuzz McPherson" <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pctl" <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>, "LumberJack" <themtgoat at yahoo.com>, vincent.rupp at gmail.com
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 2:31 PM
> 
> 
> Hey, I'm there with Fuzz! I carry all sorts of stuff that I want, "creature comforts" like books, heavy tents, and fun things to do around camp. I'm out there for the walk, the views I can capture on film (big, heavy cameras...), the side activities like climbing peaks, swimming, fishing, exploring side trails, climbing trees, and taking pictures of picas and such, cooking big meals to gobble all to myself, and to enjoy the camp life like eating a hot breakfast and dinner in the warmth of my sleeping bag in my tent away from the mosquitoes or sitting around the rare fire enjoying the moment.
> 
> In the winter, where there are no bears, dirt, or mosquitoes, I pull a 7-foot Kifaru sled built by Pat Smith (of Mountainsmith fame) to accomplish having all this fun. My son pulls a shorter version and swears, someday, that he's going to tie the Weber BBQ on and bring it into the backcountry!
> 
> 
> 
> Mtnned
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wright" <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> To: "Fuzz McPherson" <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pctl" <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>; "LumberJack" <themtgoat at yahoo.com>; <vincent.rupp at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Base Weight Calculation
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Fuzz McPherson wrote:
> >> This might sound like a strange position to take on the subject,
> >> but, if you can carry it, and want it with you, and you can do the
> >> hike comfortably, who cares what the base weight or any other weight
> >> is? I mean, if you don't think it's worth carrying it, don't carry
> >> it, and vice versa.
> > 
> > It isn't a strange attitude at all. I think it is great
> > that we can all compare notes and figure out how best to
> > equip ourselves but I got tired of the incessant badgering
> > that some people directed towards others on the trail
> > regarding gear choices.
> > 
> > Gary (Radar) Wright
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] $500K to PCT
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hi Everyone,
> I read in the Chicago Tribune today that $500K is one of the numerous earmarks to go to the PCT California section in the $410 billion bill signed by Obama. I know this bill has caused many mixed feelings in Washington, specifically about the earmarks, but quite pleasantly surprised when I saw the PCT mentioned.
> 
> Christa
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:31:44 -0700
> From: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Times they are a changing
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hey PieceOfWork,
> 
> I hiked a short while with "Serial Killer" on the AT in '07. Great guy,
> I'd be glad to meet up with him on the trail anytime.
> 
> Day-late
> 
> 
> 
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:45:30 -0400
> > From: Charlie & Nancy Zapp <cnzapp at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Times they are a changing
> > To: Jim Eagleton <eagleton at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: PCT-1 <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Message-ID: <B175FBA9-2082-46C7-91AE-52E81261439F at comcast.net>
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> >
> > I agree no one "needs" a trail name. Having said that I find the
> > beauty of them is you are who you are based on the trail and not your
> > life, career, profession, or status off of the trail. I like that
> > fact of being with folks for days, weeks or maybe even months before
> > you learn who/what they are elsewhere. Of course if they are a serial
> > killer it would be nice to know that, but they probably wouldn't tell
> > you that anyhow. It sort of levels the playing field and age and
> > gender have little to do with anything. Also trail names seem better
> > when given to you by other hikers instead of coming up with them
> > yourself
> > Piece of Work
> > On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Jim Eagleton wrote:
> >
> >
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:36:50 -0700
> From: Sean Carey <seanpct75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking from Campo
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I am leaving late April or early May sometime. I do not know yet which one.
> If I am still here and haven't left by early May though I may post my
> approximate date. Anyways nothing in stone, but I might possible\y be
> leaving there then. I just don't know yet. I will be posting here and there
> though for sure as the date is getting closer. Good luck!
> 
> Sean C.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Travis Naibert <tnaibert at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Lindsey,
> >
> > I am done with school May 14th and am planning on starting from Campo
> > within
> > 3-4 days. I'm planning on hiking as fast as possible through the desert,
> > 20+
> > miles a day is my goal. Maybe I can catch up to you, or you could wait and
> > start with me the weekend of the 16-17th. I know waiting another week is
> > probably not ideal for you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Travis
> >
> > >
> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:56:43 -0400
> > > From: Lindsey Anderson <l_r_anderson at hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: [pct-l] Hiking from Campo
> > > To: Pacific Crest Trail <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > > Message-ID: <BAY141-W3B64452C63A7A231E850FDF9E0 at phx.gbl>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey guys, I had to move back my start date due to financial situations so
> > > I'm embarking on my journey May 10th. I don't want to hike alone from
> > the
> > > Mexican border for about 30 miles though, is anyone else beginning in
> > early
> > > May that I can tag along with for a day or so? Let me know, thanks!!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > LINDSEY
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ryan Christensen <yosemiteryan at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] $500K to PCT
> To: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <607956.57534.qm at web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> 
> That is FANTASTIC news! 
> 
> ProDeal
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:00:33 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] $500K to PCT
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I read in the Chicago Tribune today that $500K is one of the numerous earmarks to go to the PCT California section in the $410 billion bill signed by Obama. I know this bill has caused many mixed feelings in Washington, specifically about the earmarks, but quite pleasantly surprised when I saw the PCT mentioned.
> 
> Christa
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:55:13 +0000
> From: Paul <paul_c at tuxcnc.org>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Base Weight Calculation
> To: pctl <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <200903121955.13225.paul_c at tuxcnc.org>
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> 
> On Thursday 12 March 2009, LumberJack wrote:
> > To bad, you can't get little packets of dehydrated beer, and just add water
> > on the trail. :-) I suppose it would taste as good as that freeze dried
> > coffee :-P
> 
> For those of you that want the just brewed taste without the extra weight:
> http://www.spicebarn.com/beer_extract_powder.htm
> http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020520.Okos.beer.html
> 
> Or if you prefer your on trail drinks a little more refined:
> http://products.katadyn.com/brands-and-products/produkte/Getraenkepulver_42.html
> 
> 
> Regards, Paul.
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:07:55 -0700
> From: Brian Lewis <brianle8 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Shoes, toothpaste
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Catching up on a couple of topics,
> 
> In regards to Toothpaste --- apart from the previously listed options
> of Dr. Bronners (I agree with those that say "yuck"), or a small tube
> of toothpaste, or just no toothpaste, an option that I like is tooth
> powder. You can make it yourself (google it), or buy it. I used this
> stuff last year:
> http://www.amazon.com/Eco-Dent-Toothpowder-Mint-2-oz/dp/B00017OQWU
> 
> Found it at my local drug store and repackaged it in a smaller
> container, something along the line of this:
> http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/microdrop_dropper_plus_bottle.html
> 
> Yes, this is arguably getting a bit gram-weenie-ish, but one quite
> small and light mini dropper type container carried enough for much or
> all of the PCT for me last year (I did refill once part way along but
> I'm not sure I needed to).
> 
> Shoes --- buying multiple pairs ahead of time or not: I did buy
> several pairs, and it worked for me, with the caveat that I asked my
> wife to order additional pairs after I had done a few hundred miles
> and so could confirm the size that I wanted.
> 
> I think pre-purchase of shoes is a fine option IF you have already
> done some relatively long distance in that particular model (and
> size). Even then it's certainly not necessary unless the model
> (or size) of shoe that you favor isn't commonly available or maybe you
> find them at a particularly good price ahead of time.
> 
> 
> Brian Lewis / Gadget '08
> http://postholer.com/brianle
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:19:01 -0400
> From: "Charles W. Davidson" <chaseat99 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Journey Steri Pen
> To: hikermiker at yahoo.com
> Cc: vincent.rupp at gmail.com, Bob <BobandShell97 at verizon.net>, atl atl
> <AT-L at backcountry.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <49B97C45.5060206 at gmail.com>
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> 
> Hi Gang,
> Well I sent my non working Journey Steri Pen back to 
> Nitro-Pak,com for refund. They said they will even repay my postage if 
> they determine it is defective.... I was hoping that they would offer 
> to rush me another Steri-pen but since they didn't I drove to REI in 
> Greensboro, NC only 56 miles away. I got to compare the three types and 
> I chose the Classic model that uses 4 AA batteries. This model does 
> twice as much water on a set of batteries. The whole thing in its Velcro 
> pouch weighs 6.5 oz with Lithium Batteries in place. Aquamara weighs 3.2 
> oz for reference. I left the Steri pen in the freezer all night and it 
> worked fine this morning. Sunday I will head out for a week backpacking 
> trip with Linda. I will do a lot of purifying water on this trip. This 
> is the same water that I have been drinking un purified for the last 36 
> year. LOL I like electronic gadgets. REI gave me my 20% members one 
> item discount and I used up my rebate too.
> 
> ps keep your nasty filter out of my drinking water
> 
> Chase
> 
> <PASTE>
> >
> >
> > My Journey steripen wouldn't work first night out. I have only used 
> > it testing maybe 6 liters and 3 pints. I didn't carry extra batteries 
> > cause I was only out for 4 days and it is supposed to do approx 50 L on 
> > a set of batteries. First night it was 14* low. These lithium batteries 
> > are not supposed to be affected by cold. I played with it the second 
> > night with a low of 34* and it would only come on a few seconds and 
> > would not even go to the pint setting of two button pushes. The third 
> > night at Fulhardt Knob shelter with the cistern and green water 
> >
> > <SNIP>
> Notice how I only included a little of the original email and not the 
> whole blame digest.....
> 
> -- 
> My Journal http:\\postholer.com\chaseat99 
> Heading to PCT in less than a month yea!!!
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:27:20 -0700
> From: Sean Carey <seanpct75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shoes...How is everyone doing the shoes thing?
> To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
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> 
> Thanks everyone for all of the responses. They help a lot. I am on a budget
> still so spending my money smartly and most efficiently is a top priority.
> It sounds like if I had a problem in between the starting point and KM. I
> should be able to find somewhere in between where I could buy more shoes. If
> I had to as a last resort. I am going to try to get me a pair of shies
> within the next few weeks here and start walking with them daily. If they
> work I guess I can get another pair and send them ahead to KM. If my feet
> have grown as they say they do. Well then I will most likely know before I
> get to KM and can adjust by buying another pair before there and mailing
> them ahead. Does that sound reasonable? Thanks again everyone..
> 
> Sean C.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:05 AM, <gwschenk at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > You can also get shoes/boots in Idyllwild at Nomad ventures.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > ---- Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You have ample opportunities to purchase shoes as you go. There's an
> > > outlet mall in Cabazon. You might be able to find something in Big
> > > Bear Lake, but I am not sure. You should be able to get a ride to REI
> > > in Agua Dulce. Check the Hiker Heaven web site for how they'll handle
> > > that this year. There's a great outfitter in Bishop. No doubt you can
> > > buy shoes in Ashland. And there are opportunities to hitch out to
> > > Portland, too. And there's always the Internet if you can ship your
> > > shoes to a real address. I shipped things home and had my home person
> > > ship them to me GD at the post office.
> > >
> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:37:59 -0700
> From: Sean Carey <seanpct75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Clothing in general.
> To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hello everyone yet again. I have some more questions about clothing in
> general as I am finally getting to purchasing the rest of my clothing. How
> many pairs of shorts do people generally bring with them up front? I was
> thinking two pairs. Do I just need one pair? Also do I even need to bring a
> pair of pants with me at first? Or should I just send my pants ahead to KM?
> I have one pair of mens patagonia Ulltra shorts at the moment. Really want
> some of their long haul runners. They have been hard to find in colors other
> than black..Anyways off the subject..
> 
> Ok also something I keep coming back to. Will a pair of good ole long johns
> suffice as your night clothing? Or what are other people using for their
> sleeping clothes? I know by reading yogis I need a set of clothing for
> sleeping that I never use during the day or when hiking. That is what I am
> talking about. I need specifics. I was just thinking get some long john type
> things, but LOL....I have heard of other stuff. Please someone illuminate
> me...LOL..I am almost positive there is something better and more
> lightweight.
> 
> The shirt part will be easy to figure out, but I am also wondering how many
> shirts people bring with them up front and what they mail ahead to KM?
> 
> Depending on where I am money wise here in the next few weeks. I might be
> hitting the thrift stores here to get a lot of my clothes. I hear a lot of
> decent hiking style shirts can be found there. Anyone else do this or know
> specifically what I should be looking for?
> 
> Once again thank you everyone so very much for all of the advise you have
> given me and will give me...
> 
> Sean C.
> 
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