[pct-l] The weapons question

[AsABat]

Bill is correct, you would still have to follow state law. In California CCW permits are very hard to get. (Maybe someday they'll recognize the 2nd amendment...)

Now, if you can't conceal carry, and you can't open carry in most communities, what to do? Hikers don't have a car trunk to lock it in. I wonder if a locked case in a pack would work or would that still be considered concealed? But those cases just add even more weight. 

My plan is to kill them with my body odor. At least until that gets ruled a deadly weapon. 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>

Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:39:09 
To: pct list<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] The weapons question



Actually, in this day and age, they probably would.

I haven't read the bill, but it was my understanding that it simply  
meant that if you have an existing permit, valid in the state where  
the park that you're visiting resides; it's legal for you to carry in  
the park.

Previously, parks were allowed to make their own rules about carrying  
weapons inside their boundaries irrelevant of the local states's laws.

(Even if we don't want to debate the whole 2nd amendment thing)  
Traveling with a firearm is complicated enough and carrying a loaded  
one even more so, imagine if you had to be aware every time you  
crossed an imaginary line on a map to know you could or could not  
carry.  Imagine if you still had to get individual permits in every  
park you passed through on the PCT.

Personally, even my Glock is too heavy to pack on the trail, so I'm  
going to carry a BIG stick, concealed.  ;-)  Well, actually, I got the  
ultralight, collapsible, dehydrated one; so it fits in my pocket.


BillB



On May 20, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Fuzz McPherson wrote:

> I do believe that's right, from what little I've glanced over the  
> proposal and from what I've seen previously.  It allows for  
> concealed carrying of a weapon without further permit, I believe.
>
> Realistically, if a bear comes to attack you, or some "entrepreneur"  
> in the woods who is "guarding" "his" pot growing land, and you use a  
> pistol that was on your hip in a holster, or had been in a  
> "concealed" location like say a pouch on the side of your pack, ...   
> I don't think the law is gonna come after you to take away your  
> birthday in either case.  "Bad boys, bad boys!  Whatcha gonna do!?   
> Whatcha gonna do when they come for you!???!"
>
> lol
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:09:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The weapons question
>
> Mike Cunningham wrote:
>
>> The question is why are guns allowed in a National Forest but not in
>> a National Park. I believe that the reason has to do with hunting..  
>> If
>> I am carrying a loaded weapon am I hunting or just prepared to defend
>> myself?
>>
>> In Connecticut, where I live, hunting is not permitted on Sundays. If
>> I carry a loaded weapon in the woods on a Sunday that alone is
>> considered to be evidence of hunting.
>>
>> Not permitting weapons in a National Park makes hunting not a
>> problem.
>
>
> I don't think this is about hunting. I think this is about concealed
> carry. That would mean personal defense weapons.
>
> If I am found in a national park with a loaded .38 caliber pistol, I
> don't think anyone will think I have been hunting.
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