[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3

ruckman1968 at aol.com ruckman1968 at aol.com
Wed Sep 2 12:53:40 CDT 2009


in reference to the pocketmail. i know what you mean about having so many devices. pocketmail was a good thing to have when i did the AT in 03, but nowadays theres a lighter option that i saw another hiker using that he raved about called the PEEK 2 ( think thats what it was called). the device was about $60, and $20 a month for service. thats all its used for is writing, sending and receiving emails and i think you may be able to directly send it to trailjournals. but the guy who had it was on postholer and he could directly send it to that. you dont need a phone to send the messages either. it just sends them when it gets a signal. wish i had used one this year on the PCT. live and learn.


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Today's Topics:

   1. Burney Falls alternate mail drop (Mike Ronstadt)
   2. Re: pocketmail setup (Bob Bankhead)
   3. Re: Bathing concerns (JONATHAN Salzwedel)
   4. Yosemite, Tioga Road From Crane Flat to White Wolf: CLOSED
      From White Wolf to Tioga Pass: Open ( and to points east ) open.
      (mattjolley at comcast.net)
   5. Re: pocketmail setup (Meridith Rosendahl)
   6. Photo Website (tom aterno)
   7. Re: Bathing on the trail (Tortoise)
   8. Re: pocketmail setup (Tortoise)
   9.  Burney Falls alternate mail drop (enyapjr at comcast.net)
  10. Bayou - Next years hiking plan. (Roy)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:27:56 -0700
From: Mike Ronstadt <threeeasysteps at live.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Burney Falls alternate mail drop
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The store is going to be closed when I hike through.  Any suggestions for an 
alternate mail drop?

summermike

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 00:35:40 -0700
From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] pocketmail setup
To: "Michael Jurado" <kungfutbol at yahoo.com>,    <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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On well-travelled trails like the PCT and JMT, I refuse to carry a cell phone, 
SPOT, or any other communication device. I go on the trail to get away from all 
that. Cell service along the PCT is spotty at best and greatly dependent upon 
which carrier you have. Murphy's Law states that if you do have an emergency, 
your chance of also having cell service is miniscule, so why carry the weight?

At each re-supply point, I either use a pay phone to call home (or if internet 
service is available, I pay to access my email) to let my wife/contact person 
know that at least I've reached that point alive and SAR only has to look from 
that point onward if I don't report in any more. Worst case scenario, I find 
someone else who's carrying a cell phone (and who has cell service there) and I 
pay them to let me use theirs. Let them carry the weight and worry about battery 
levels and recharging time.

If your personal or professional situation is so critical that you absolutely 
MUST be readily reachable at all times, then suck up the cost and carry a 
satellite phone, or just stay close to home. Ask yourself what are you going to 
do if you do get a recall notice? You're probably going to be many miles and/or 
several days' travel from an exit point, and even then reliable transportation 
from that point may well be lacking. Professionally, there is - or should be - 
someone at the office who is being paid to handle your workload while you're on 
vacation; let them do it! How can you possibly expect to relax and get the most 
enjoyment from your hike if you're constantly having to check your phone or 
Pocketmail to see if someone out there needs you?

Wandering Bob


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  From: Michael Jurado 
  To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:21 PM
  Subject: [pct-l] pocketmail setup


  What's up everybody!
       So I was planning on taking a SPOT and pocketmail on my thru-hike, but I 
was wondering if I have to take a ce
ll phone too to work my pocketmail.  I'm not 
too crazy about taking so many devices.  R there any alternatives?  
Communication back home is very important to me, so if I gotta do what I gotta 
do, then I gotta do what I gotta do.  But I wanted to know what other people use 
to communicate back home and what works best for them.  Thanks!  

  Mikey Jurado



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:39:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: JONATHAN Salzwedel <bethjon at wowway.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bathing concerns
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Leave your "hiking buddy" home.? My guess is the "bathing concerns" would be the 
tip of the iceberg and your friend would find many more issues to?be concerned 
?about once underway.?? Jon Salzwedel 


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:59:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: mattjolley at comcast.net
Subject: [pct-l] Yosemite, Tioga Road From Crane Flat to White Wolf:
    CLOSED From White Wolf to Tioga Pass: Open ( and to points east )
    open.
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?Other roads closed as well,?? 

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/conditions.htm 

Tioga Road (Highway 120 through the park) 

>From Crane Flat to White Wolf: CLOSED 

>From White Wolf to Tioga Pass: Open 


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:12:46 -0700
From: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] pocketmail setup
To: pct-l at backcountry.net, kungfutbol at yahoo.com
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     So I was planning on taking a SPOT and pocketmail on my thru-hike, but I 
was wondering if I have to take a cell phone too to work my pocketmail.  

Mikey, you will need a cell phone
, but it has to have an analog only mode.  The 
alternative is using your pocketmail device with a pay phone (they give you a 
toll free number) or a normal house phone (another toll free number).  

Piper's Mom


>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Photo Website
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Check out these photos of the Sierra and Cascades, etc.? Stunning.
?
http://brandonriza.com/index.htm
?
?
The Incredible Bulk


      

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:55:11 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bathing on the trail
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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smelly and stinky is our natural condition.

and I find it feels good.  I just don't want to smell too much of my BO 
because I'm not accustomed to my natural smell.

and has been mentioned recently, even in my several days jaunt on the 
PCT, I could sure smell the BO of those who used scented soap, 
deodorant, etcetera.

Tortoise

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

--H. L. Mencken

<> He who finishes last, wins! <>



Ellen Shopes wrote:
> All good ideas so far.  As a long time desert hiker, here's my .02.
> 1.  Water is for drinking, not washing.  Use anything that's already listed 
> (baby wipes, baby powder, clean sleeping clothes, etc).  I carry a small 
> sliver of cake deodorant in a baggie, and apply it with my finger when I 
> feel really stinky.  Some clothes do hold odors more; experiment with ones 
> you think you will wear and see if they do.
> 2.  When you do find water (except at a cache), fill a pot or other small 
> container with a bit of water and wash (without soap) away from the water 
> source.  You'll probably still stink, 
but you'll feel better!
> 3.  Take an air bath at the end of the day.  Strip down and dry out, and 
> alot of the odors will decrease.
> 4.  Have a positive attitude about it...I mean, people deliberately get into 
> saunas to sweat and 'clear out the toxins'.  Gosh, we get to do days of 
> this!  (I sweat buckets.  Sweating is an important adaptation to the heat. 
> Just be prepared for the chafing that all the salt deposits could cause.)
> 5.  We're all going to stink; I promise not to name you 'Stinky'!
> Elderly Ellen
>
>   
>>
>> ---- Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:04 AM, CRYSTAL NEZGODA wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> My trail buddy has decided not to hike with me because of bathing
>>>> conserns... I really don't mind being dirty for long periods of time
>>>> but for
>>>> him its a deal breaker, what are some of your experiences with
>>>> bathing on
>>>> the pct, spcifically section 1 and 2
>>>>         
>>> I think a certain amount of tolerance for hiker 'funk' is required
>>> on any multi-day backpack.  That being said, here are some strategies
>>> for minimizing the funk:
>>>
>>> -- have sleeping clothes that are different than your hiking clothes
>>> -- use a bag liner to keep your sleeping bag clean
>>> -- take a 'sponge' bath when possible at the end of the day
>>> -- use moist travel/baby wipes to clean up at the end of the day
>>> -- jump in creeks and lakes when possible
>>>
>>> When I reach camp for the day, I try to switch out of my stinky
>>> hiking clothes ASAP.  I carry a light pair of running shorts to
>>> wear around camp and/or while sleeping. These are also useful when
>>> doing laundry in town.  A pair of socks that are only used in camp
>>> also helps.
>>>
>>> I carry gold bond foot power with me while hiking and use it on my
>>> feet at most breaks. It doubles as a quick deodorant before trying
>>> to yogi a ride into town.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Wright (Radar)
>>>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:05:30 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] pocketmail setup
To: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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As far as I know, analogue cell phone service is no longer available.  
all the carriers have converted to digital (except maybe in a few spots) 
and turned off their analogue service by Feb 2008. so carrying an 
analogue only cell phone is about as useful as carrying a small brick.

Tortoise

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

--H. L. Mencken

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Meridith Rosendahl wrote:
>      So I was planning on taking a SPOT and pocketmail on my thru-hike, but I 
was wondering if I have to take a cell phone too to work my pocketmail.  
>
> Mikey, you will need a cell phone, but it has to have an analog only mode.  
The alternative is using your pocketmail device with a pay phone (they give you 
a toll free number) or a normal house phone (another toll free number).  
>
> Piper's Mom
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:51:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: enyapjr at comcast.net
Subject: [pct-l]  Burney Falls alternate mail drop
To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> The store is going to be closed when I hike through. Any suggestions for an 
alternate mail drop?

Old Station @ 1377.7 (38.2 miles before the state park @ 1423.6), 
or hitch (~7 miles) West into Burney from the Hwy. 299 / PCT crossing @ 1415.9 
...

Happy trails!!!
Jim (PITA)

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roy <roy_hiking at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Bayou - Next years hiking plan.
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Well, hiking and sightseeing is over for the summer and I am back in New 
Orleans, and already planning my next years hike.

This is my first thought, I need to fill in the section on the PCT from Campo 
too Big Bear City.? The question is how early, after Jan. 1 2010, can I start a 
southbound hike from Campo???? 

Bayou



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