[pct-l] Could use an angel at Sunrise trailhead
cj5w4wd at live.com
cj5w4wd at live.com
Wed Apr 28 10:01:53 CDT 2010
On halfmiles maps that's WR-CS 059
Cris
...mountains don't tolerate fools
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From: cj5w4wd at live.com
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:59:33
To: PCT L<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Could use an angel at Sunrise trailhead
Bunch of us are taking shelter in the restrooms. Could use a ride to Julian. 9703062308.
Cris
...mountains don't tolerate fools
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Today's Topics:
1. Updated snow levels for the sierra (Darren)
2. Help (Red Luehrman)
3. Re: SoCal SC Description is up! (jake)
4. Bears...Deodorant & Mothballs (Reinhold Metzger)
5. "FLOATSAM" Money lost on the trail (Reinhold Metzger)
6. JMT Reinhold is going to Heaven (Reinhold Metzger)
7. Thank you (Reinhold Metzger)
8. Final Shameless Bandwidth Hogging Marketing Ploy (hiker97 at aol.com)
9. Re: Thank you (hiker97 at aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Darren <darren.bagnall at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Updated snow levels for the sierra
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Courtesy @markgrossi on Twitter:
http://ow.ly/1Dbnu
Sierra snowpack 166% of ave in north; 132% statewide
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:16:29 -0400
From: Red Luehrman <redjcl at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Help
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Looking for some help.
Some friends and I are coming to Vancouver Is. in August and we are
looking for a good 2 day backpacking hike along the PCT. Out and back with
maybe a beach campsite would be ideal. I am open to any suggestions given.
Thank you in advance
Red
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:32:37 -0700
From: jake <irjake at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] SoCal SC Description is up!
To: ned at mountaineducation.org
Cc: Michael Jurado <kungfutbol at yahoo.com>, Kathryn Zimmerman
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Wing It and I went to the snow course this year and learned a lot and had a
good time... highly recommended for those who are unsure of their snow
travel skills or snow way-finding. We live in the Palm Springs area, and
wouldn't mind helping out thru-hikers who need help getting to/from the snow
course (although we have a small car, so space is limited).
Don't Panic
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:59 PM, <ned at mountaineducation.org> wrote:
> The SoCal Snow Course Description is finally written and posted at
> http://postholer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=839 . This should help with
> your planning. Sorry it took so long to produce....
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:33:17 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Bears...Deodorant & Mothballs
To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, aalarsen at uwalumni.com
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Yes,
MendoRider is right.
I have used mothballs for many years when I hike with friends or the
Scouts and they work.
The bears seem to stay away from the campers with the mothball odor and
go after the campers with the cosmetic odors and the food odors instead.
I have been accused, on this list, that all I'm doing is sicking the
bears on the other campers.
I say "Better Them Than Me".....besides, everybody is responsible for
their own bear precaution.
I use pieces of stockings (they allow the odor to escape freely) to
attach a mothball or two to my pack, bear bag or whatever and place a
few loose ones around my tent or sleeping bag.
In the morning I place all the mothballs in a zip lock and put the bag
in my sleeping bag.
Gives the bag a slight mothball odor, and me also, to keep the bears
away and mask that on the trail to long hiker odor.
The slight mothball odor is less offensive than the on the trail to long
hiker odor and makes the other hiker dudes wonder why all the hiker
babes hang around me, instead of them.
So, if you girls get tired of your smelly boyfriends, come and see me,
JMT Reinhold with the mothball odor.
I do not, however, use mothballs when I go "STEALTH" on my solo "JMT
Fast Packs" for the simple reason that the mothball oder may give away
my position and defeat the "STEALTH" prime objective of staying undetected.
JMT Reinhold
You Western USA mothball distributor
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Edward Anderson wrote:
> Alexandria,
>
> Reinhold mentioned mothballs. He's right. That's one odor that repels bears rather than attracting them. I have used them in bear country for about 20 years. I used them during my ride (by horse) of the PCT. I first learned of them from friends who are canoeists and who have taken several trips in Alaska and the Yukon. In parts of the Yukon, I was told, that moth balls in cotton tobacco sacks (2 or 3 in each) are called "bear charms". I usually carry about 20 of these. I store them in an OpSak when not in use. I also store my food and my horse's processed food in OpSaks and am careful not to get food smells on the outside of the sacks. At night I surround my saddle and saddle bags and all of the food sacks with bear charms. I also surround my tent at a distance of about 10 feet. I would like to point out that, while bears are repelled by moth balls, rodents are not. Fortunately, not even rodents can smell food stored inside an OpSak.
> Have a great hike - and leave out the deodorant. Sweat is the smell of honor on the PCT.
> MendoRider
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
>> Subject: [pct-l] deodorant
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, aalarsen at uwalumni.com, "Hiker97" <hiker97 at aol.com>, "patti kulesz" <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 10:30 AM
>> Alexandra,
>> Bears are attracted to odors and they do not discriminate
>> against cosmetics.
>> You will be a favorite target.
>> You might be better of sticking a moth ball into each
>> ear(just kidding).
>> Bears do not like moth ball odor.
>> The moth ball odor will overpower your body odor and even
>> keep the moth away.
>> Sleep tight, for you need not fear the bears tonight.
>>
>> JMT Reinhold
>> -------------------------
>> Alexandra wrote:
>>
>> random question maybe, but does anyone bother bringing
>> deodorant on the
>> trail? I find it hard to imagine life without it, but my
>> boyfriend is of the
>> opinion that it really won't make a difference, and I'm
>> starting to worry he
>> might be right!
>> Any input is appreciated!
>>
>> Alexandra
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:47:33 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] "FLOATSAM" Money lost on the trail
To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>, Georgi Heitman
<bobbnweav at gmail.com>, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>, MONTE
DODGE <montedodge at msn.com>, Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>
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Hi guys,
I lost a lot of money on the trail some time ago.
A tear in my pack caused a lot of money to be scattered all over the trail.
I consider it to be "FLOATSAM" not "JETSAM", since I lost it and did
not throw it away deliberately.
Therefore I am the rightful owner of all the money found on the trail
and would greatly appreciate if it is returned to me.
I will pay a reward for any money returned to me.
You can tell if it's my money by the pictures on its face.
I only carry money with the following pictures on it:
$1 Washington
$5 Lincoln
$10 Hamilton
$20 Jackson
$50 Grant
$100 Franklin
So, if you find any money with the above pictures on it, it belongs to
me and should be returned to it's rightful owner.
Like I said, I will pay a reward for any money found on the trail and
returned to me.
BTW....you can keep the $1 bills as an advance on your reward.
Thank you for your cooperation and honesty.
JMT Reinhold
Anxiously awaiting the return of my "FLOATSOM" money
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TrailHacker wrote:
Marine law has a number of ways of helping people deal with wrecks,
flotsam, jetsam, etc. that can be found in the sea. Jetsam refers to
materials that are purposefully thrown over board (jettisoned) . Flotsam
refers to materials that float off a ship without having been thrown in
deliberately. A shipwreck usually results in Flotsam and not jetsam.
Generally speaking, jetsam is the property of the finder, while flotsam
remains the property of its original owner. I can only assume that these
laws arose after centuries or millennium of the principals of "finder's
keeps" failing to reduce the chaos in society. I would think that it
would be fairly easy to discern those items found on the trail that are
flotsam (packs, poles, cameras, etc.) and those that are jetsam (corn
spaghetti, clif bars, giardia encrusted undergarments, etc.). Can we all
agree that the trail flotsam still belongs to the original owner until
proven otherwise? It would lift the trail community at least up to the
level of the first maritime laws of the 1400's. TrailHacker
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:27:39 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] JMT Reinhold is going to Heaven
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>, patti
kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>, Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>,
MONTE DODGE <montedodge at msn.com>, Georgi Heitman
<bobbnweav at gmail.com>
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Say Switchback,
I just came back from Heaven....Sky Bum Heaven that is.
I skied last week in five feet of fresh powder on top of 400+ inches of
prior powder with the JMT at my feet and Banner, Ritter and the Minarets
looming in the background.
If that ain't Heaven,..........then it's the closest thing to it.
I'm so exited, I finally got to see Heaven...my future permanent home.
How do I know I will go to Heaven you ask?
I know because the Marine Corps told me so.
I distinctly remember the old "GUNNY" telling us..........."All
Marines go to Heaven.....because they already served their time in Hell".
So there, that's how I know! ! !
Are you satisfied now???
I know, from the ranting and raving on the list, that some of our list
members probably will not make it to Heaven.
I say......"DO NOT DESPAIR".....there is hope.....you can always join
the USMC....if they'll take you.
Then you are guaranteed to go to Heaven, for you will have already
served your time in Hell.
JMT Reinhold
Your Heaven bound trail companion
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:24:24 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Thank you
To: pct-l at backcountry.net, haexli333 at gmail.com, Hiker97
<hiker97 at aol.com>, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>, Deems
<losthiker at sisqtel.net>
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AnnA,
It is nice to hear you acknowledge your appreciation for Switchback's trail
humor on the list.
He is the spark plug on the list, who brightens up the list by injecting
occasional trail humor.
Zip lock bags & weather reports can become somewhat boring after a while and
the list needs someone like him.
Look him up at the KO...he will be at the Pirates Roost at site #22.
I will not be there this year....I am nursing a couple post surgery women.
He is as sweet as can be, has a heart as big as the mountain of a man that
he is and will do most anything for his fellow hikers.
He is not as good looking as I am, but he makes up for it with his size.
Word of caution, beware of his.....YOOOHOOO...I HAVE SNICKER BARS!!!
It is a trick to lure cute, innocent girls, like you, to his Pirates Roost.
JMT Reinhold
Hi folks. Let me say a big THANK YOU for all the helpful information, for
the funny entertainment and for the motivation for training and doing this
hike! I really appreciate this list. And a "sorry", for those who may not
always have gotten a personal answer. This is for you: THANX!
So now I'm looking forward to meet you down there at the KO. I'm courious to
discover the face and character behind your name's grey letters on the
pct-l!
AnnA
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:07:42 -0400
From: hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] Final Shameless Bandwidth Hogging Marketing Ploy
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I have been packing my gear for the Kickoff's Pirates Lair at site #22. Here is a reminder of the fantastic goodies at the Pirate's Lair:
--- get your shelter stakes painted florescent orange, so you do not lose them
--- get foam tubing for your one ounce handsfree umbrella holder - limited quantities
--- hiker snacks
--- advice and Super-Secrets of Backpacking flyer
--- gear weighing to one tenth of an ounce
--- a tsunami of super funny hiker jokes and trail humor notebook
--- pirate tatoos
--- meet in person the PCT-L on the Moderator's Watch List pirate - get your picture taken too
--- optional Super-Secrets seminar Saturday morning
--- other surprises
Switchback is the only one who offers you the world famous 120% money back guarantee for all products and services. See you soon.
Faithfully, your obedient servant.
Switchback the Trail Pirate
Class of 2013
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:51:52 -0400
From: hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thank you
To: reinholdmetzger at cox.net, pct-l at backcountry.net,
haexli333 at gmail.com, peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com, losthiker at sisqtel.net
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Unsupported JMT Snow Bunny Reinhold writes: it is nice to hear you acknowledge your appreciation for Switchback's trail humor on the list. He is the spark plug on the list, who brightens up the list by injecting occasional trail humor. Zip lock bags & weather reports can become somewhat boring after a while and the list needs someone like him.
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Switchback replies: I thank Unsupported for his kind comments. But I must say I am not a spark plug. I am a trouble maker and the IED (improvised explosive device) of this list. My Viking type exploits on the PCT are legendary. The List Moderator has me on his Poster Watch List. And rightfully so. I thank you.
By the way, I am at Warner Springs Resort right now. It is cold and wet. I have started writing my world famous After Action Report on my laptop. It is going to be fantastic. I will post it Sunday, when I return home. You will get Switchback's unique insights to the 2010 Kickoff.
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