[pct-l] Degree bag for thru hike?

Carl Nerup cnerup at att.net
Mon Aug 16 10:30:06 CDT 2010


Hands done.  Summerlite - Western Mountaineering.  32 degree bag - 16 ounces.   
If you are cold - put on some thermals and if really cold - put on your WM Flash 
Jacket (8 oz).    


Western Mountaineering makes the best, light weight, down products in the market 
- and right here in the USA.   Great company for the discerning, lightweight 
enthusiast.  





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From: Jenn Von Bork <dr.jackalope at gmail.com>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 4:41:57 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Degree bag for thru hike?

To each his own. I also use a Marmot Helium (15deg) and I love it. I tend to
sleep cold and this bag kept me plenty warm on the coldest nights on the
PCT. Regardless of my fitness level, every ounce counts for me when trying
to put in big miles day in and day out.
jackalope

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:28 PM, <ned at mountaineducation.org> wrote:

> This is in response to the comment, " Not ultralight, but oh, so cozy."
>
> As my son will heartily tell you, a comfortable night's sleep far surpasses
> the lightweight and cold bag. On our recent video tour to collect footage
> for our coming Snow Guide to the PCT, Captain Growler carried a very nice,
> zero-degree down mummy bag which we had used all winter for 30 nights
> without any cold spots (different sleeper). He is 6' 3" and 250 lbs and
> didn't really fit the bag.
>
> After 17 days in the snows of May and early June, he chose to carry a much
> bigger and heavier zero-degree synthetic bag in which he slept much more
> comfortably and happier the rest of our 33 days out. The bag weighed about
> eight pounds and, if put inside his pack, was large enough, stuffed tight,
> to take up more than half of it! Strapped on the back, it looked ridiculous,
> but he was happy! (Keep in mind that at this point we were in shape and the
> added weight didn't matter much--we were already at almost 80 pounds, with
> camera gear and 12 day's worth of food)!
>
>
>
> Ned Tibbits, Director
> Mountain Education
> 1106A Ski Run Blvd
> South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
>    P: 888-996-8333
>    F: 530-541-1456
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>   From: sojo hendrix
>  To: ned at mountaineducation.org
>  Cc: Eugene Leafty ; pct-l at backcountry.net
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:08 PM
>  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Degree bag for thru hike?
>
>
>   I've been very happy with my 15 degree marmot helium down bag.  Women's
> for 5'6" weighs 29 ounces. Not ultralight, but light and oh so cozy.
>
>  Sojourner
>
>
>    On Aug 10, 2010 11:32 AM, <ned at mountaineducation.org> wrote:
>
>    My wife and I have been teaching snow camping and general mountaineering
>    since 1982. Last season we logged nearly 70 nights on the snow. Our
>    experience has taught us that you will be warmer in individual bags
> rather
>    than couples bags, because of the down draft that is allowed between the
> two
>    of you. Of course, it depends on how the bag is designed to prevent
> this.
>    Now, with a quilt that might be manageable, but will the down be
> compressed
>    in the process?
>
>    In addition to asking others what they think, go out and test different
>    systems for yourselves to see what works for you. In our (Mountain
>    Education) snow courses, students bring many different types of bags,
> pads,
>    and shelters to test on the snow. Warm sleepers sometimes get away with
> 15
>    or 20-degree bags while cold sleepers are not warm enough in their
> 0-degree
>    bags. Down air mats like those from Exped do the best to keep you warm
> and
>    augment the thermal value of the bag. You've got to find out what works
> for
>    you before you leave on your trip.
>
>
>
>    Ned Tibbits, Director
>    Mountain Education
>    1106A Ski Run Blvd
>    South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
>       P: 888-996-8333
>       F: 530-541-1456
>       C: 530-721-1551
>      http://www.mountaineducation.org
>
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