[pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)

Sun Dec 5 15:02:50 CST 2010

there are a lot of places in the beginning where you simply can't set up a 
hammock.  impossible.

have you checked out the nemo meta 1P?  
http://www.nemoequipment.com/nemo2010-meta1p-tent  suuuper simple setup,  just 
stake it down, and then lift your trekking pole up into it like opening an 
umbrella. i'm unsure how sturdy it is, i have my meta 2P out in the snowstorm 
right now just to test it  (we're getting 8 inches tonight).  the 2P is larger 
and uses 2 trekking poles not one.  it is plenty strong thusfar.

the people on he trail i saw with the Henry shires tents of any kind were all 
thrilled with them.  ...some tents are finnicky in their setup, but i dont think 
you can really make a 'wrong' decision,  you'll be living out of this thing.  
two weeks in, the setup will be second nature regardless of which you choose 
IMHO,

~Paul

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From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 3:34:58 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)

The only reason I'm hesitating with the tarptent is that it seems it would be a 
pain in the ass to set up. I'm going solo, so I want something simple. They're 
simple enough, I suppose, but there's so many options and I can't make up my 
mind, haha! What about a hammock? Those look really nice, but are there always 
places to set them up? The Wild Oasis is floorless, which is great in the snow, 
but I'm a bit weary about ticks and other bloodsuckers. I could get over that, I 
bet :-) The weight savings just might be worth it... But I also don't know how I 
could do that in the rain, especially with a down sleeping bag like the sub 
kilo. I'm leaning toward the sublite tarptent. I'm not sure which one-- sil or 
original. I eventually need to make a desicion :-) eenie meenie minee mo...

Whitnee

--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
To: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>, "Whitnee Goode" 
<whitneegoode at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:03 AM

about tarptents...
i've moved to one,  in 2010 i hiked using the marmot Aeolos 2P... rock solid ... 
and TWICE we had the only standing tent in the morning (out of 4 and 5 tents)... 
but you're talking in the 6 lb range.

the tarptent style takes a little more care in how you face the wind,  and maybe 
a few more rocks around you tent stakes to keep them in,  but the weight savings 
are so very worth it (to me)
i've been useing the Nemo Meta 2P  used it 14 nights now... for the weight it is 
a big improvement over a 4 poled tent like a Marmot.   it has bug netting etc. 
so as to provide some mosquito protection.  is it as strong?  of course not...  
might i be miserable one night out of 130 nights?  sure.  but its worth it for 
the weight.

the biggets downside is some condensation,   So i take a 5 inch square of 
ShamWOW with me and qipe off the tent walls come morning ... (roll this up and 
put it in the center of your pack for an ice cold 2PM spongebath in the heat of 
the day!)...

as for staking... i do this on rocky surfaces...  open my trekking pole,  or run 
the trucking pole somewhow through the guy rope (or nylon loops; whichever you 
have) and then lay that down o nthe ground and put some big old rocks on it.  
this is stronger than just putting a stake in the ground;  though it is a lot 
more trouble it's worth it on a stormy night.

~Paul

From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo

I have the women's long even though I am only 5'5". I like to be able to move 
around and slide down into the bag and I felt that the long was less 
constrictive. I rarely have problems w/my feet being cold even though I have the 

extra length. I typically don't sleep with socks and have only needed to twice, 
once in approx. 20* weather at 9800' and once during a cold March night 
with crazy wind. 

I was just gifted a FlyCreek UL1 tent but have yet to receive. I am excited to 
check it out, and at 2lbs it is not too bad for a freestanding tent. I have 
never used a tarp tent and had not ever seen one until the KO last year. They 
look very roomy and I like the ones with the bug netting but I have no 
experience on how easy they are to set up and how they perform in super winds, 
rain, hail, etc. Also, what are the options for set up if you are on a rock 
surface and can't stake? I can see the up side to ta tarptent for sure, 
especially at their weight and pack size, but what, if any are the down sides? 
I'll probably start with a tent since that is what I am comfortable with, but I 
am always open to change and will be interested to see so many of these on the 
trail as they seem popular!

Happy Hiking!Lisa 

"Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb 

a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
~ John Muir 

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From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 12:08:53 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo

I'm going to try to rip the stuff sack before I go then (not really try, but be 
hard on it) so I don't get stuck on the pct without one. I'm glad you love 
yours! That makes me excited :-) How's the size? It seems like a lot of people 
say it's too small or only for really skinny people. How skinny does one need to 

be in order to fit comfortably? What kind of shelter do you have? I'm thinking 
about getting either the Wild Oasis from Six Moons Designs or the the Sublite 
tarptent...

Whitnee

--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 12:52 AM

I LOVE mine!!!  

The compress sack that came w/ripped at the straps after a couple of trips, but 
they let me take my pick off the shelf for a replacement one. I tore out the 
draw cord last year and ripped a section, (I was using as a blanket while 
lakeside and accidentally stepped on the bag while trying to pull the hood 
closed while walking back to the tent, not the best protection plan). I thought 
they were no longer available at REI so I easily sewed the rip and re-strung the 

cord rather than return and it seems to be holding up fine where I did the 
repair.

My friend borrows my hubby's sub kilo whenever she goes with me and is buying 
one for herself this week. Great price right now! 
 Lisa 

"Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb 

a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
~ John Muir 

From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com

Just bought one!! AHHH! I hope I made a good choice... can't beat REI's return 
policy though :-)

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