[pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
Edward Anderson
mendoridered at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 9 22:57:31 CST 2010
The dirt road that I'm looking at on the satelite map leaves the highway at
about 1/4 mile SE of Echo Summit Road. I would park at the highway (on my way
north) and hike down with my resupply cache. I see lots of grass and individual
trees on the S. picture but no cabins near the place where I would camp. I
appreciate your input.
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From: "ned at mountaineducation.org" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 3:18:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
Got it! The area is popular with summer USFS-leased cabins and I have seen the
dirt road leading into it often, but haven't been there. The general area,
however, looks like it should have great grazing for your horses, but I do not
have first-hand recon. of it. Pretty sad since I live right here..., but then it
is someone's driveway, although probably for more than one cabin.
"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education
1106A Ski Run Blvd
South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
P: 888-996-8333
F: 530-541-1456
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http://www.mountaineducation.org
----- Original Message -----
>From: Edward Anderson
>To: ned at mountaineducation.org
>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
>
>
>Ned,
>
>Lake Audrion is near Echo Summit. The lake is a little south of the PCT and
>Highway 50 as they pass near Little Norway. Look at the map K1 in the W. Press
>Guide book. It shows a dirt road leading down from where the PCT crosses the
>highway. I meant that I would camp downstream, not upstream, from the lake.
>
>
>
>
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From: "ned at mountaineducation.org" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
>To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 2:55:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
>
>
>Ed,
>
>I can't place in my mind's eye where Audrion Lake is.... What is before or after
>it?
>
>The TRT is full of complaints regarding mtn. bike traffic, especially the east
>side of Tahoe and north of Desolation Wilderness.
>
>
>
>"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
>
>Ned Tibbits, Director
>Mountain Education
>1106A Ski Run Blvd
>South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
> P: 888-996-8333
> F: 530-541-1456
> C: 530-721-1551
> http://www.mountaineducation.org
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Edward Anderson
>>To: ned at mountaineducation.org
>>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 2:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
>>
>>
>>Hi Ned,
>>
>>I want to wait until most of the snow has melted - especially north and south of
>>Sonora Pass. I plan to arrive there on about August 10th. If this winter turns
>>out to be pretty normal I will be riding south from Sierra City on Monday
>>morning, July 25th. I am starting there because I missed the PCT between there
>>and Horseshoe Meadows during my 2008 ride. By July 25th, having left my horse in
>>good care at S.City, I will have driven my rig down to the Pack Station in
>>Horseshoe Meadows. My wife will pick me up there and drive me back up to S.
>>City. My first resupply cache will be at a location about 1/2 mile west of
>>the Interstate 80 Trail-head. I will also camp there. My second
>>resupply/cache/camp location will be near the meadow that is upstream from
>>Audrion Lake. Are you familiar with the area of that lake? I only have a
>>satellite picture of it. It looks like there would be graze there. Another
>>question, since you live in the area, just how bad is the bicycle and motorcycle
>>traffic on the 50 mile part of the PCT that is also the Tahoe Rim Trail? I might
>>decide to take a couple of 0 days if I am there on a weekend.
>>
>>MendoRider/Ed Anderson
>>
>>
>>
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From: "ned at mountaineducation.org" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
>>To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 1:37:10 PM
>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
>>
>>
>>Hey, Ed!
>>
>>When are you doing this? I must have missed the dates...
>>
>>
>>"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
>>
>>Ned Tibbits, Director
>>Mountain Education
>>1106A Ski Run Blvd
>>South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
>> P: 888-996-8333
>> F: 530-541-1456
>> C: 530-721-1551
>> http://www.mountaineducation.org
>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Edward Anderson
>>>To: ned at mountaineducation.org
>>>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net ; diane at santabarbarahikes.com
>>>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:21 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>For my 2011 PCT ride SOBO from Sierra City to Horseshoe Meadows I plan to take
>>>my time (allowing six weeks) and be able to supplement the food that I carry
>>>with fresh trout and pick leaves and shoots that I know of for salads - and wild
>>>onions for my trout stew. I plan to arrive at my camps early to allow time to
>>>enjoy the place, take care of my horse, fish, gather plants, and sometimes take
>>>a warm shower. Of course, my horse will be grazing every day. I also feed him
>>>processed horse feed that I will have in each of my seven resupply locations. I
>>>strongly believe in "leave no trace" camping and usually set up my camps well
>>>off the trail and far away from the hiker camps - which, I believe, are
>>>sometimes contaminated. My horse is hobbled while grazing and I scatter his poop
>>>well before leaving camp.
>>>
>>>MendoRider
>>>
>>>.
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From: "ned at mountaineducation.org" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
>>>To: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>;
>>>pct-l at backcountry.net
>>>Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 11:47:22 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time for hunting/gathering?
>>>
>>>Diane commented that there really isn't time for hunting, gathering,
>>>foraging, fishing...
>>>
>>>I beg to disagree. It is all a matter of your schedule. If you leave early
>>>enough and plan for easier daily mileages, say in the high teens range, once
>>>you're in shape, you'll be able to accomplish those miles early enough in
>>>the day to spend the afternoons doing whatever you want enjoying where you
>>>are!
>>>
>>>On the pct and cdt, I planned for 17mpd with a day off on-trail per week.
>>>Once I was in trail-shape, about 2 or 3 weeks in, I was able to knock off my
>>>daily miles early enough to fish, photo-tour the area around the area where
>>>I camped, explore a side canyon, wash my clothes, take a nap in the sunny
>>>meadow, write, climb a peak, or forage for wild edibles.
>>>
>>>If the general concern is that starting "early" means confrontations with
>>>more rain or snow, then just plan and train for it. Put a little "mountain
>>>man" in you, able to handle whatever the mountains test you with. Only makes
>>>you more confident, experienced, and wise and potentially more safe.
>>>However, if you're out there to set land speed records, that's a different
>>>story. I went March 14th to Sept 2nd and had snow from KM to Rainier and it
>>>didn't slow me down or in any way make my trip more difficult. Just give
>>>yourself more time to enjoy the trail, especially in snow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
>>>
>>>Ned Tibbits, Director
>>>Mountain Education
>>>1106A Ski Run Blvd
>>>South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
>>> P: 888-996-8333
>>> F: 530-541-1456
>>> C: 530-721-1551
>>> http://www.mountaineducation.org
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes" <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>>>To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:36 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food Dehydrator Tips or Recipes?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Actually the reason I was interested in pictures of edibles was not
>>>> so much for the native ones on the trail but for the weeds that grow
>>>> in my yard or in other impacted places.
>>>>
>>>> When hiking the PCT there really isn't time for hunting, gathering,
>>>> foraging, fishing or anything of that nature in any substantial
>>>> manner. A few little onions or miners lettuce sprigs here and there
>>>> or perhaps a fish or two, but that's about it.
>>>>
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>>>> There's enough people hiking the trail these days that i'd think
>>>>> we'd have to be
>>>>> careful what we harvest and eat. obviously wild onions are almost
>>>>> invasive;
>>>>> but be careful about heavily subsidizing your food with wild plants
>>>>> from near
>>>>> the trail, at least walk off trail a bit if you do.
>>>>>
>>>>> hope this doesn't sound like bitching.
>>>>>
>>>>> how do others feel about eating edibles you find as you walk the
>>>>> trail? is it
>>>>> considered taboo?
>>>>> ~Paul
>>>>
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