[pct-l] stoves?

[Jim Keener ( J J )]

You're right, of course. There are no completely safe stoves. So it is tempting to call pilot error when a fire is started. 

But to your question: alcohol stoves are easily turned over, the flame is sometimes invisible, and it isn't always possible to know when all the fuel has been burned. 

Having tossed a few grenades, I think that a fuel canister is something far different. 

Jim Keener ( J J )

On Dec 10, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:

> How would an alcohol stove be more dangerous than a canister stove?
> If either stove got kicks while it was lit, the potential to start a large
> fire is there. Is it because alcohol flames are invisible in the daylight?
> How would that increase the chance of a wildfire?
> Honestly, the pressurized fuel canisters make me more nervous than alcohol
> ever has. Those fuel canisters are essentially grenades that are just harder
> to ignite, but if it ever happened, I'm afraid of all that shrapnel flying
> around!
> 
> I'm sure there are reasons alcohol is more dangerous, but I'm just ignorant
> about the ways they are worse.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Jim Keener ( J J ) <
> pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> PCT hikers have started several forest fires. Alcohol stoves are
>> potentially more dangerous than others. The trail traverses some very
>> fire-sensitive areas.
>> 
>> I think it is very likely that there will be more limits placed on fire use
>> along the trail. Self-policing and a very heightened awareness are
>> appropriate.
>> 
>> Walk well,
>> Jim Keener ( J J )
>> 
>> On Dec 10, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been using an alcohol stove (Pepsi can style) for years now. I can't
>>> imagine every using anything else. Every canister stove I've ever seen
>>> weighed more and/or was less stable when cooking. Then there is the issue
>> of
>>> having to carry 2 canisters when on still has a couple days in it, but
>> not
>>> enough to get through the next section. With an alcohol stove, you will
>>> always leave town with the right amount of fuel. One can make an argument
>>> that they, canister stoves, are more convenient, but it's not a strong
>>> argument. My alcohol stove might take longer, but I'm not in a hurry on
>> the
>>> trail. ;)
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, <mctanker at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Been using an alcohol stove. Is this the best bet, or should I use a
>>>> cannister stove?  Cook water only for breakfast (1 cup) and dinner (2
>> cups).
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dennis (aka Sunshine)
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