[pct-l] Stove Fires

[Paul Robison]

Ken,

this information is out of date.

there are new requirements from 2010 hat put canisters in the hazmat qual. not 
an ORMD any longer.
for ups this gives them a 38$ minnimum surcharge. not sure about other 
carriers.  also means they can no longer go 'priority' class, though i believe 
first class is still an option.

~Paul 
(i'm a former hazmat auditor for UPS)



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From: Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com>
To: robert at engravingpros.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 4:03:23 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stove Fires

Actually Esbit tablets, alcohol, and propane/isobutane canisters have the 
same mailing requirements. All must be labeled as "Consumer Commodity - 
ORM-D"  and must be shipped "Surface Mail Only".

http://www.gottawalk.com/shipping_fuel.htm

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert W. Freed" <robert at engravingpros.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: [pct-l] Stove Fires


Pepsi can alcohol stoves are light weight and hot. A strong wind can blow 
them around spraying pressurized fuel as it goes. Also, since they 
pressurize by heating the entire stove they are not easy to stop with your 
hands. Plus there is no way to turn them off. This scenario has led to at 
least two forest fires that I have heard of.
I use esbit. A half tab will boil a cup of water in about 7 minutes. They 
are easy to blow out and easy to carry. Plus mailing them in your drop box 
is easy. (Legal?)
Robert
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