[pct-l] Just behave

[dsaufley]

The PCTA and USFS aren't on this list serve.  As we've emailed privately,
your best bet is to give the information directly to the PCTA regional rep
who is working with the USFS in determining the alternative route. I believe
you are planning to do that. 

Posting unapproved alternatives out here at this time suggests to the
uninformed that these alternatives are viable when they are not. 

As for me, if you would stop posting unapproved alternatives, there would be
no need for warnings against going into the closed areas.

L-Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of canoeman at qnet.com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:33 AM
To: patti kulesz
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Just behave


I'm sure your referring to those guys on the san gabriel forum, when your
suggesting Someone BEHAVE.
My behind the scenes work with the pcta is  offering  suggestions for future
routes for them to consider, that I know very well.
I haven't hiked these trails  SINCE THE CLOSURES  and wont. I have hiked
these
routes EXTENSIVELY IN PAST YEARS, BECAUSE THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY LITERALLY
TOUCHES THIS TRAIL ROUTE BEING SUGGESTED.
And frankly I'm starting get pissed off by self imposed trail gods venting
their
anger at me for simply suggesting POSSIBLE ROUTES.
THIS IS A FORUM. I SEE IT AS A PLACE TO OFFER OPEN DISCUSSION.
So save your angry rant about closed areas, and get off your ass and help
find
a
solution to the road walk, instead of ranting about others trying to help.

NO WHERE  in my posts have I suggested anyone enter closed areas. PERIOD.
I HAVE HOWEVER, SPENT MANY WEEKENDS HIKING ADJACENT AREAS TO THE CLOSURE TO
FIND
A ROUTE TO HELP HIKERS AVOID A ROAD WALK.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MY LOCAL TOWN COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION,
AND
LOCAL LAND OWNERS TO GET TRAIL PERMISSION ACROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY INCLUDING
MY
OWN TO ALLOW HIKERS TO BY PASS THE CLOSURE.
WE ALL KNOW THE AREA IS CLOSED, BUT IF ENOUGH PEOPLE GET INVOLVED, PERHAPS
THE
FOREST SERVICE WILL TAKE NOTICE AND TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THESE ROUTES.
IF YOUR ANGRY, GO TO THE FORUM where TRESPASSERS POST and  RANT THERE. I've
NOTICED NO ONE HERE HAS.   NOT ONE PERSON.

I WILL CONTINUE TO TRY AND HELP SUGGEST ROUTES TO THE PCTA AND THE FOREST
SERVICE, AND SURROUNDING LANDOWNERS.
BUT THE FOREST SERVICE AND THE PCTA HAVE THE FINAL SAY.
by the way, THE use of caps in text was intentional, GET IT!

  
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