[pct-l] for all you old foofs that like to reminisce

Sun Jan 17 20:35:36 CST 2010

Dear Steve

> Although I haven't hiked with an external frame for some time, I think
> there is some good reasons to do what you did and I have to say that I
> suspect there could be reason to create an ultralight external frame
> pack.
> There are advantages and they show up from time to time.

The advantages are:
1. The load is mainly supported with the pelvis, not with the
shoulders, and the stomach muscles are not strained.  Then, in the
long run, it  resulted in less fatigue.
2. The heavy load is possible. I can hike with  up to 30Kg load.
(Usually, I  carry my wife's foods and luggage)
3. The frame pack is relatively lighter, compared with the load.

> Keep the frame, but replace the fabric with cuben or at least light silnylon?
> What about a titanium frame?

Yes, it is  good ideas,  but titanium is hard to make.
The scandium mini-pipe frame is good. It was used in the Mountain
Hardware Solitude.
But Solitude was discontinued,. because it was very expensive and heavy.

If someone make a very light version of Solitude, it will be a great
backpack. I am sorry, I am not a manufacturer .

> Just some ideas.
>
> stevie
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Yoshihiro Murakami
> <completewalker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear ned and eckert
>>
>> I must be the one of the worst and the dullest old foofs( I had
>> consulted with dictionary). I likes JanSports external pack. Recently,
>>  I was not able to act against the temptation of the sales of
>> backcountry.com. So I got new Carson 80.  The  form of waist belt and
>> shoulder yokes were improved, and fit well. The frame was smaller than
>> the old D3, but still it  was too large to hike at steeper mountains
>> in Japan. So I cut the lower frame and made a shorter one, and
>> attached the very old joints of D3 to Carson 80. Then, I sewed the
>> three plastic buckles to the packs. I am using a very heavy camera
>> Olympus E-3, about 2 Kg, simply because the focusing speed is  the
>> fastest, and almost waterproof.   It may looks like one of the
>> military packs.
>>
>> The photos are here: I wrote captions in English but explanation in Japanese.
>>
>> http://psycho01.edu.u-toyama.ac.jp/carson80.html
>>
>> In future, I would  like to hike some sections of PCT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/13  <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com>:
>>> Hey, Carl!
>>>
>>> I'm still using mine and quite happy with it. I use internal frames for my
>>> Search and Rescue work because I don't need the volume of the Kelty.
>>> Regarding mobility with the Kelty, I used one to ski the CDT back in 1980
>>> and didn't have a problem....
>>>
>>> Ned
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Carl Siechert" <carlito at gmail.com>
>>> To: "eckert" <jape1 at cox.net>
>>> Cc: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net>; "Backpacking Light"
>>> <BackpackingLight at yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] for all you old foofs that like to reminisce
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for that link, Eckert!
>>>>
>>>> It's true; Kelty packs were bombproof, even the ones that weighed less
>>>> than
>>>> 6 lb 10 oz. I used the pack I carried on the PCT, which weighed "only" 4
>>>> lbs
>>>> 10 oz, for another 28 years of one-two week trips. In fact, aside from its
>>>> weight, there's nothing wrong with it and I'd still be using it now if I
>>>> hadn't shed a few pounds and switched to Six Moon Designs packs a few
>>>> years
>>>> ago.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Carl
>>>> 1977 PCT Kelty Kid
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM, eckert <jape1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was looking up an author of an old field guide and ran across a pdf of
>>>>> a 1979 Backpacker magazine.  Enjoy the ads.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yl7syko
>>>>>
>>>>> The link is somewhat convoluted because of my search query, and begins
>>>>> towards the back of the magazine.  Just scroll up for a treat.  On page
>>>>> seven (for you PCT buffs) see why the Kelty Kids held that name.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> --------------- --------------------------------------
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Sincerely
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Hiro    ( Yoshihiro Murakami )
HP:http://psycho01.edu.u-toyama.ac.jp
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