[pct-l] Pct-l Digest best synthetic sleeping bag
Bruce Randall
bruce.a.randall at gmail.com
Tue Jan 26 13:45:50 CST 2010
You may want to check out
http://bigagnes.com/Products/ProductFinder/Bag/filters/9
What is great about Big Agnes bags are they are lighter because they rely
on your pad for insulation rather than more fill. I insert my Thermarest
into the bag insert.
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> 4. best synthetic sleeping bag (Steve McAllister)
> 5. Re: Death on the PCT / John Joseph Donovan (Steve McAllister)
> 6. Re: Eyeglass wearers (anna mathys)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:08:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Death on the PCT / John Joseph Donovan
> To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Share away, Half Mile !!!
>
> I want to know all you have to offer !!! I'm not even sure which model gps
> is most recommended right now and if it would work with your points.
>
> Or, if the info is too long for the post, email me directly.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
> To: Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 4:04:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Death on the PCT / John Joseph Donovan
>
> This is the only article I know about.
>
> GPS waypoints are helpful, especially in the snow. Everyone I know who
> has tied my half mile waypoints, really liked using them. It's not
> that difficult although you do need to know how the GPS works. I would
> be happy to share what I have learned with anyone who is interested.
>
> -Halfmile
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Half Mile,
> >
> > That was the BP magazine article that I found. But there was supposed to
> be second article. Did you find that, too? Or was the other one the first
> article with less information?
> >
> > With your waypoints, I can't see this happening to anyone again so long
> as they carry a GPS and know how to use it.
> >
> >
>
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> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:40:30 -0800
> From: Ralph Alcorn <rbalcorn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 25, Issue 100
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:14:15 -0600
> From: Alexandra Larsen <aalarsen at uwalumni.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] best synthetic sleeping bag
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Does anyone have recommendations on the best synthetic fill sleeping bag?
> I'm a little afraid to go the route of the down sleeping bag, as I'm bad
> luck prone and would probably manage to soak the bag at the moment when I
> needed it most. I realize warmth, light weight, and low cost is a lot to
> ask
> out of one product, but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. Thanks!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:33:45 -0500
> From: Steve McAllister <brooklynkayak at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] best synthetic sleeping bag
> To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hi Alexandra,
>
> No advice on a synthetic bag, but something you might want to consider
> is how I deal with a down bag:
> I hike with a down bag, but no down clothing. All my clothing is
> synthetic with some wool and silk base layers.
> I do kayak camping.
>
> My bag has a pertex shell that repels water. ?I've camped in gales
> under a tarp and had spray reach may bag, but the pertex repelled the
> water.
> If my bag for some reason should get totally soaked, it could be
> uncomfortable wearing all of my clothing to bed, but I would survive.
>
> I don't hike with any down clothing because the time I need the extra
> insulation the most is in freezing rain, when it is impossible to stay
> dry and I don't want to be wear down in those kind of conditions.
>
> Another thing to consider, a down bag with an ultralight bivy(sleeping
> bag cover) is lighter than an equivalent synthetic bag.
>
> I bring an SMD Meteor ultralight bivy as double protection on extended
> trips where the weather could be snotty. The bivy acts as a ground
> cloth and sleeping bag cover for added protection when things really
> go wrong.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Alexandra Larsen <aalarsen at uwalumni.com>
> wrote:
> > Does anyone have recommendations on the best synthetic fill sleeping bag?
> > I'm a little afraid to go the route of the down sleeping bag, as I'm bad
> > luck prone and would probably manage to soak the bag at the moment when I
> > needed it most. I realize warmth, light weight, and low cost is a lot to
> ask
> > out of one product, but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. Thanks!
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:48:31 -0500
> From: Steve McAllister <brooklynkayak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Death on the PCT / John Joseph Donovan
> To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> GPS or not? Either way refer to your compass and topo maps regularly.
> Don't even think about relying on a GPS as your only guide.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Share away, Half Mile !!!
> >
> > I want to know all you have to offer !!! I'm not even sure which model
> gps is most recommended right now and if it would work with your points.
> >
> > Or, if the info is too long for the post, email me directly.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
> > To: Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 4:04:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Death on the PCT / John Joseph Donovan
> >
> > This is the only article I know about.
> >
> > GPS waypoints are helpful, especially in the snow. Everyone I know who
> > has tied my half mile waypoints, really liked using them. It's not
> > that difficult although you do need to know how the GPS works. I would
> > be happy to share what I have learned with anyone who is interested.
> >
> > -Halfmile
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks Half Mile,
> >>
> >> That was the BP magazine article that I found. But there was supposed to
> be second article. Did you find that, too? Or was the other one the first
> article with less information?
> >>
> >> With your waypoints, I can't see this happening to anyone again so long
> as they carry a GPS and know how to use it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:01:13 +0100
> From: anna mathys <haexli333 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Eyeglass wearers
> To: Eugene <atetuna at hotmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Maybe it's a bad idea, but I was thinking about cut glasses out of black
> paper. Cut horizontal srtipes out to see trough it. Very cheep and light.
> People did so (with leather) as an emergency solution in Himalaya.
> I tried to wear two glasses over each other, but it was unconfortable
> because mainly the front one slides down.
> AnnA
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Eugene <atetuna at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Got any tips for another semi-blind hiker?
> > I'm thinking about getting a set of prescription transition glasses. I
> > don't know if they'll be dark enough, nor how I'll block the sides when
> > glare is especially brutal. I'm also thinking about packing eyeglass wet
> > naps to clean my glasses every few days.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:12:57 -0600
> From: Swope Christopher <sswwooppee at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] best synthetic sleeping bag
> To: PCT list <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> When I first started out backpacking I felt the same way about down. I
> bought this:
>
>
> http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/pro-force-snugpak-sleeper-lite-sleeping-bags.aspx?a=370368
>
> It's not a flashy, sporty looking bag, It's not crazy light like down,
> you can't pack it as small and it won't live as long, but the price is
> right.
>
>
>
> Swope
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2010, at 3:14 AM, Alexandra Larsen wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have recommendations on the best synthetic fill sleeping
> > bag?
> > I'm a little afraid to go the route of the down sleeping bag, as I'm
> > bad
> > luck prone and would probably manage to soak the bag at the moment
> > when I
> > needed it most. I realize warmth, light weight, and low cost is a
> > lot to ask
> > out of one product, but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. Thanks!
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:56:19 -0500
> From: Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] best synthetic sleeping bag
> To: <aalarsen at uwalumni.com>, pct-L backcountry.net
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU125-W73B70FDE5AD6D3318041FD3600 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Below is a direct link to a pdf file available from HikeThru.com containing
> a list of down and synthetic bags ranked from light to heavy for a specific
> temperature rating. This list doesn't contain every sleeping bag but it
> will give you a general idea of what bags are available along with cost and
> weight information. You can use this list to compare other sleeping bags to
> get a general idea of performance to weight. The best synthetic bag depends
> on what your specific needs and your budget. I hope this list helps in your
> selection process.
>
>
>
> List of sleeping bags by temperature rating
>
>
>
> http://hikethru.com/files/Sleeping%20Bags.pdf
>
>
>
> Sleeping Bag Section at HikeThru.com
>
>
>
> http://hikethru.com/hiking-information/sleeping-bags-1
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> For more general information
> > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:14:15 -0600
> > From: aalarsen at uwalumni.com
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] best synthetic sleeping bag
> >
> > Does anyone have recommendations on the best synthetic fill sleeping bag?
> > I'm a little afraid to go the route of the down sleeping bag, as I'm bad
> > luck prone and would probably manage to soak the bag at the moment when I
> > needed it most. I realize warmth, light weight, and low cost is a lot to
> ask
> > out of one product, but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. Thanks!
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Eyeglass wearers
> To: anna mathys <haexli333 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
>
> cut glasses out of black paper?? Come on now.? I would bet you would not be
> able to identify the difference in weight of your pack if you carried two
> sets of glasses (regular and sun).
>
>
>
> Unless you are going to test out this black paper solution in conditions
> similar to what you are going to experience on the PCT, in my opinion it is
> a bad idea.
>
>
>
> elevator
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "anna mathys" <haexli333 at gmail.com>
> To: "Eugene" <atetuna at hotmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:01:13 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Eyeglass wearers
>
> Maybe it's a bad idea, but I was thinking about cut glasses out of black
> paper. Cut horizontal srtipes out to see trough it. Very cheep and light.
> People did so (with leather) as an emergency solution in Himalaya.
> I tried to wear two glasses over each other, but it was unconfortable
> because mainly the front one slides down.
> AnnA
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Eugene <atetuna at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Got any tips for another semi-blind hiker?
> > I'm thinking about getting a set of prescription transition glasses. ?I
> > don't know if they'll be dark enough, nor how I'll block the sides when
> > glare is especially brutal. ?I'm also thinking about packing eyeglass wet
> > naps to clean my glasses every few days.
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> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:00:31 -0700
> From: "Marge" <marge at prothman.org>
> Subject: [pct-l] My computer
> To: <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> My computer is now healthy again.
> For those of you who are in my friends list on Facebook, I opened up an
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:07:02 -0800
> From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] best synthetic sleeping bag
> To: Alexandra Larsen <aalarsen at uwalumni.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <8D204210-556D-4123-9B5C-BD11A3D2FCFD at burge.com>
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> Besides the issues you do mention, you should also consider stuffed
> size. A down bag of similar temp rating will a significantly smaller
> amount of pack space/volume.
>
> Bill Burge
> Typoed on my iPhone!
>
> On Jan 24, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Alexandra Larsen <aalarsen at uwalumni.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have recommendations on the best synthetic fill sleeping
> > bag?
> > I'm a little afraid to go the route of the down sleeping bag, as I'm
> > bad
> > luck prone and would probably manage to soak the bag at the moment
> > when I
> > needed it most. I realize warmth, light weight, and low cost is a
> > lot to ask
> > out of one product, but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. Thanks!
> > _______________________________________________
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