[pct-l] TP decomposition - 3 P's

[Will Hiltz]

And let me just add whatever our disagreements we are both obviously
concerned with the same thing and that awareness is something we should
foster in our hiking comrades, so kudos to you!


Easy

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Will Hiltz <will.hiltz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Feel free to continue to use whatever disposal method you like.  You
> haven't really told us why making your slurry is any more desirable than
> packing out-- you are focused on reasons that its "just as good" as packing
> out, which is not the same as it being beneficial. So we're back to, at
> bottom, finding it icky as the justification for leaving your TP in the
> woods.
>
>
> My data and statistics are this-- the idea behind LNT is to leave as little
> trace as you can.  Surely introducing something into the woods that wasn't
> there before (even in slurry form) is less desirable than leaving nothing at
> all?
>
>
> Your credentials are undoubtedly in order, but as I said above, a lot of
> these "methods" we see on the list are more about people trying to feel
> justified in claiming their method (burying deep enough, burning, slurry,
> tons of rocks on top, a stick stuck in the hole, etc., etc., etc., etc) is
> just as acceptable as packing out.
>
>
> Easy
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Ron Moak <ronmoak at sixmoondesigns.com>wrote:
>
>>  >> Ah, yet another justification for avoiding something which you seem
>> to acknowledge is the right thing to do but you find unpleasant. ]
>>
>>
>>
>> No matter how much you mix up your patented poo slurry with extremely
>> responsible toilet paper, it is definitely not the most environmentally
>> friendly or LNT way to dispose of your TP. Not leaving it there in the first
>> place would be... or is that just oversimplifying things? <<
>>
>>
>>
>> Easy,
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t acknowledge or deny that packing out your TP is the right thing to
>> do. It is an acceptable option if you choose to avail yourself to that
>> method. I am simply saying that it’s not the only viable method to achieve a
>> desired result (the unsightly presence of TP).
>>
>>
>>
>> As to whether the 3 P’s is or isn’t the most environmentally friendly
>> option, you’ve failed to make any case. You’re simply stating a belief that
>> the 3 P’s is environmentally unsound with no data or reasoning to
>> substantiate your case. Saying I believe, is neither evidence nor a reasoned
>> argument. To say leaving TP behind is environmentally harmful, you’d have to
>> first establish that TP is harmful. Unsightly, agreed. Harmful, not likely.
>>
>>
>>
>> With respect to my background and reasoning process. It’s derived from a
>> Degree in Forest Management combined with working three years in a major
>> sewage treatment plant. This provides a pretty good basis for understanding
>> the forest ecology, forest by products (TP) and waste management.
>>
>>
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>> Fallingwater
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