[pct-l] 100 resupply

will.hiltz at gmail.com will.hiltz at gmail.com
Tue Jun 8 22:25:34 CDT 2010


If you're in the area of sonora pass around 4th of july definitely go into bridgeport... The hitch isn't that bad and in '07 they let hikers march in the 4th of july parade!

Easy


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   1. Anyone know how to get to Red's Meadow Resort from the trail?
      (enyapjr at comcast.net)
   2. Re: Anyone know how to get to Red's Meadow Resort from the
      trail? (Austin Williams)
   3. 100 resupply points!! (Austin Williams)
   4. Re: Kick Off this past April (pam.bryant at cox.net)
   5.  100 resupply points!! (Sean 'Miner' Nordeen)
   6. Re: 100 resupply points!! (Scott Bryce)
   7. Re: Tarptent Cloudburst 2 (Rick Donahue)
   8. Re: Plastic bucket/'dundo' (ned at mountaineducation.org)
   9. Re: 100 resupply points!! (Timothy Nye)
  10. Re: 100 resupply points!! (Cosmic Cat)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:14:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: enyapjr at comcast.net
Subject: [pct-l] Anyone know how to get to Red's Meadow Resort from
	the trail?
To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>, austinwilliams123 at gmail.com
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> I've never been to Red's Meadow Resort.  Google Earth says it's just west of
> Bishop.  Is that true?  Why would anyone resupply that far off trail when
> Mammoth Lakes PO is just 8 miles off the trail?
> 
> Can anyone set me straight?

Reds Meadow Resort is W of Mammoth - at the end of the road into Devils Postpile area...
See <http://www.redsmeadow.com/how-to-get-there.html>...

One without special dietary needs 'should' be able to find enough in the store to
make it N (2 days for a thru-hiker) to Tuolumne Meadows - otherwise take the shuttle to 
Mammoth Mountain Lodge, then bus into Mammoth Lakes...  One can also walk taking a trail 
to Lake Mary then road walk (bus??) on down to Mammoth Lakes...

Happy trails!!!
Jim (PITA)

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:18:18 -0700
From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Anyone know how to get to Red's Meadow Resort
	from the	trail?
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Huh... I guess I *have *been to Red's Meadow.... I just didn't know that was
the name of the place!  Sweet.

You learn something new every day!

-- 
Austin Williams

www.PlanYourHike.com
Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.

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born outdoors while moving about freely."
   --Friedrich Nietzsche


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:43:41 -0700
From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] 100 resupply points!!
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hi,

So I finally added Red's Meadow Resort to the list of resupply points (don't
ask me how I *missed *that one.... I seriously must have had some wires
crossed).  That makes 100 resupply points in all.

WWhhheeew! (I wipe the sweat off my forehead).  That's a huge mile stone for
this obsessive project of mine.   I think that should above cover it!  I
feel like I can finally relax now.

We will continually update the resupply point information as we get more
information/updates/corrections from the community.

You can find it all here:

http://planyourhike.com/planning/resupplypoints.html

Thank you all for your help,

-- 
Austin Williams

www.PlanYourHike.com
Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.

"Sit as little as possible. Give no credence to any thought that was not
born outdoors while moving about freely."
   --Friedrich Nietzsche


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:06:47 -0700
From: <pam.bryant at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kick Off this past April
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: "pcnst2001 at oakapple.net" <pcnst2001 at oakapple.net>
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Hello pct-l,

As previously mentioned regarding topic thread above, she (Victoria (Tori) Seher - bear expert) works at Yosemite and here from their web site is info to get in touch with her -

call us from 8:30 am to 4:30 pm Pacific Time (closed for lunch) at 209/372-0200; press 3 then 5. If the ranger is not available, you'll be returned to the phone tree's main menu.

Also, from a previous email from this thread, a better, more direct approach is her email victoria_seher at nps.gov. She said that is the best way to contact her. She also gave me a phone # of 209-372-0322  . . . .

Happy Hiking and Stay Safe!
Pam


---- pam.bryant at cox.net wrote: 
> 
> thanks everyone for your responses! 
> once i get her phone number, i will post it to the list in case anyone else would like to talk to her. 
> she was so *awesome* ! 
> 
> 
> ---- Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > She was the bear expert from Yosemite.  If you call there, they should be
> > able to give you her name.  I spoke to her about the relative lack of bear
> > problems in the high country last year compared to years past, and she
> > acknowledged the changes in bear behavior because most of us hikers are now
> > using bear cans.  We are no longer the easy target for food, and fewer bears
> > are migrating to the high country to prey on our hanging bags.  According to
> > her, and another Yosemite ranger I spoke to, the high country is not their
> > usual range, as it is ralatively devoid of food, and only became part of
> > their summer wanderings because we brought so much food up there, and made
> > it so available to them.
> > 
> > Shroomer
> > 
> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:42 AM, James F. Miller
> > <jamesfmiller at hotmail.com>wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > She was the 'bear' expert in one of the national parks..like Yosemite
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:35:13 -0700
> > > > From: pam.bryant at cox.net
> > > > To: pct-l at backcountry.net; pcnst2001 at oakapple.net
> > > > Subject: [pct-l] Kick Off this past April
> > >  >
> > > > Hi David and everyone on pct-l,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone remember the speaker who gave the talk about *bears* this
> > > past kick off at Lake Morena? She was pretty young, maybe in upper 20's.
> > > >
> > > > Or what department of the forest service is she from? I would like to get
> > > in touch with her. . . . Any help will be much appreciated!!!
> > > >
> > > > I looked at the flyer for the scheduled presentations and no name or
> > > organization was listed by scheduled talk . . . .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Pam
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:47:02 -0700
From: "Sean 'Miner' Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
Subject: [pct-l]  100 resupply points!!
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Don't more people use Kennedy Meadows (north_ Resort (different then the Kennedy Meadows at mile 700) instead of Bridgeport PO off Sonora Pass?  I mention this since you only listed BridgePort which is a much harder hitch while the Resort holds packages and sells a decent resupply.

-Miner

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:13:45 -0600
From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 100 resupply points!!
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Austin Williams wrote:
> We will continually update the resupply point information as we get more
> information/updates/corrections from the community.

You have the Idyllwild PO, and the Tahquitz Inn. I believe the Idyllild 
Inn will also hold hiker packages. In 2008 I sent myself a pair of shoes 
there, and they were giving daily rides to the Devil Slide trailhead.


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:05:45 -0700
From: Rick Donahue <anutherrick at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tarptent Cloudburst 2
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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We've got a Cloudburst 2 and love it. Tons of room for two. Easy to set
up - insert little pole, stake it, insert big pole, pull tight, stake it.
The
symmetry of the design appeals to me. It is a single wall tent though, so
you get condensation buildup unless you keep the beak at the apex open.
We've used it in windy and wet  conditions and no problems. There are
little tabs on each side to use string for outriggers to rocks, etc.,
making
it very sturdy. We have not used it under heavy snowfall conditions.
Since it has a larger shoulder area and a smaller foot area you have to be
particular about orienting it on a slope with head on high side (or low side
if that's the way you sleep). With that one little limitation you get a
really
roomy upper body area for two people + packs and all for less than 2.5 lbs.
Henry makes nice products.

--Rick

Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:07:38 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Bastian Schlagowsky <bastian.schlagowsky at web.de>
> Subject: [pct-l] Tarptent Cloudburst 2
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <670086881.139857.1276013258606.JavaMail.fmail at mwmweb061>
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>
> Anyone here with experience with the Cloudburst 2 from Tarptent?
>
> Is it easy to set up? How does it stand in wind and rain?
>
> Free Refill from Berlin
>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:22:45 -0700
From: <ned at mountaineducation.org>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plastic bucket/'dundo'
To: <johnmuirtrail at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I'd like to chime in here with a durability point:

We're all for have as light a pack as possible, but not at the expense of safety and durability. Case in point, here, is the selection of a good water bag for in-camp use for dinner and breakfast water needs. Many simply choose the lightest and cheapest and trot off into the wilderness a happy camper until they use it. Sure it will hold the 2 1/2 gallons of water, but will it puncture easily if you lay it on granite, pine cones, or sharp twigs? 

The MSR Dromedary bags are made in different sizes and very durable. There have been times where, due to the cold or our haste that we have literally chucked or dropped it fully loaded onto a granite rock or slab, it has been frozen onto the snow in the morning and has been quite easy to dislodge without damage, it has been quickly hung from the stub of a tree branch to dangle and scrape alongside some pretty rough bark, or has been tied, precariously, onto our packs during the day's hike to swing away in the sun melting snow within and there has never been any leakage or puncture. I would hate to get out there, miles or days from a trailhead, to find that my water bag, which I rely upon for the filtered storage of my evening and morning water supply, easily punctured or ripped under normal backcountry wear and tear. Lightweight is nice, but test it out close to home under similarly expected conditions before you have to rely upon its performance miles from replacement!

A similar case in point was the issue of lightweight snow pants. It was quickly discovered that they do an adequate job as long as you don't slide over crusty snow or ice and certainly, for the same reasons, do not sit on anything rough like granite or the bark of a fallen tree! Duct tape doesn't last long, either, as a suitable repair in this case. 

So, before you purchase your gear, consider, also, its durability, rather than just its weight, so you have a fun and safe time out there.



Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education
1106A Ski Run Blvd
South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
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    F: 530-541-1456
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:29:52 -0700
From: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 100 resupply points!!
To: "Sean 'Miner' Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I have to echo Miners point about Kennedy Meadows (North).  Last year, I
advised trail friends to opt for KMN,but they would routinely make the
difficult (unless you are, or are accompanied by, a woman) hitch to
Bridgeport which seemed to negate the difficulty to alarge extent.  KMN is
in a beautiful setting.  they offer showers, have a great cafe and even a
separate bar.  Their store is well stocked, if not particularly aimed at the
hiking community; yet the resort is a gateway area into the back country.  A
place to camp is offered away from the crowds by a river running through the
broad green meadow, a setting visually appealing enough that it was
previously used as a movie backdrop.  I sharper contrast with Km (South) is
difficult to imagine from the aspect of scenery.

The brief, but steep, drop down the western slope to KMN is distinguished
from the often multi-leg hitch to Bridgeport.  Last year each time I
returned to Sonora Pass from the east I'd routinely find thrus that with
only some exaggeration appeared to be vying for the honor of establishing
the proper setting for the Tomb of the Forgotten Hitch Hiker at the highway
intersection.  (Mournful sound of bugle playing taps in the background).

Unfortunately, while trail angeling at the pass it seemed that 80% of thrus,
at least, were opting to go east.  If the numbers were reversed I'm
confident that there would be a further increase in amenities/products for
thrus at KMN.   Last year I mentioned to the proprietor that they should
consider placing an ad in the Communicator, but they were unfamiliar with
the publication.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean 'Miner' Nordeen <
sean at lifesadventures.net> wrote:

> Don't more people use Kennedy Meadows (north_ Resort (different then the
> Kennedy Meadows at mile 700) instead of Bridgeport PO off Sonora Pass?  I
> mention this since you only listed BridgePort which is a much harder hitch
> while the Resort holds packages and sells a decent resupply.
>
> -Miner
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:14:38 -0700
From: Cosmic Cat <cosmic.cat144 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 100 resupply points!!
To: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Sean 'Miner' Nordeen
	<sean at lifesadventures.net>
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There is also the option of skipping the resupply all together and carrying
six days of food (~150 mi) from tuolomne to echo lake. But six days are
heavy. And the first few days of the leg IMHO are the most physically
demanding of the entire trail.

Goodness

On Jun 8, 2010 1:29 PM, "Timothy Nye" <timpnye at gmail.com> wrote:

I have to echo Miners point about Kennedy Meadows (North).  Last year, I
advised trail friends to opt for KMN,but they would routinely make the
difficult (unless you are, or are accompanied by, a woman) hitch to
Bridgeport which seemed to negate the difficulty to alarge extent.  KMN is
in a beautiful setting.  they offer showers, have a great cafe and even a
separate bar.  Their store is well stocked, if not particularly aimed at the
hiking community; yet the resort is a gateway area into the back country.  A
place to camp is offered away from the crowds by a river running through the
broad green meadow, a setting visually appealing enough that it was
previously used as a movie backdrop.  I sharper contrast with Km (South) is
difficult to imagine from the aspect of scenery.

The brief, but steep, drop down the western slope to KMN is distinguished
from the often multi-leg hitch to Bridgeport.  Last year each time I
returned to Sonora Pass from the east I'd routinely find thrus that with
only some exaggeration appeared to be vying for the honor of establishing
the proper setting for the Tomb of the Forgotten Hitch Hiker at the highway
intersection.  (Mournful sound of bugle playing taps in the background).

Unfortunately, while trail angeling at the pass it seemed that 80% of thrus,
at least, were opting to go east.  If the numbers were reversed I'm
confident that there would be a further increase in amenities/products for
thrus at KMN.   Last year I mentioned to the proprietor that they should
consider placing an ad in the Communicator, but they were unfamiliar with
the publication.


On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean 'Miner' Nordeen <
sean at lifesadventures.net> wrote:

> Don't m...


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