[pct-l] Crampons? Anybody used snowshoes?

Wed Mar 3 12:05:39 CST 2010

I see where there is discussion about potential crampon usage, has anyone ever used snowshoes?  I am familiar with the differences and usages and in this snowpack with a June 15-20 entry, would snowshoes be something anyone might be interested in trying?  Thank you.

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> 1. Crampons Advice (Jeremy Caves)
> 2. Re: revision no. 75 to hike plan
> (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
> 3. Re: Food Drop Services (giniajim)
> 4. Re: Food Drop Services (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
> 5. Re: revision no. 75 to hike plan (Jim Bravo)
> 6. San Diego Hiker Hosting; Rides to the PCT (Halfmile)
> 7. Iodine (Bigfoot CDA)
> 8. Trailjournals gets hacked.... (Postholer)
> 9. Re: Crampons Advice (Trailwife at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:20:27 +1100
> From: Jeremy Caves <jeremy.caves at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Crampons Advice
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> Hey y'all,
> 
> My friends and I are hoping to depart Kennedy Meadows around June 17/18 
> into the Sierras. I've been reading conflicting advice about whether 
> crampons are necessary for the high Sierra around this time. We plan on 
> carrying snow axes (I seem to have read several times that this is 
> highly advisable), but I'm still debating the crampons issue. I'd like 
> not to carry them if at all possible.
> 
> 
> What do you all think about whether crampons are necessary around this 
> time in the high Sierra?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
> jeremy.caves at gmail.com
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 06:27:49 -0800
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] revision no. 75 to hike plan
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Last year people jumped up to Donner Summit from Lone Pine to escape 
> the Snow. They were not on an early schedule like you are planning. 
> They went southbound but it didn't work out. Too much snow. They 
> turned back. Maybe northbound would have worked, but for better odds, 
> you might consider jumping up to Sierra City, 38 trail miles further 
> north.
> 
> Also, I'm not sure what month this will be for you, but last year 
> there was an article in the newspaper that serves the area around 
> Chester and Old Station about two hikers who hiked from Quincy-La 
> Porte road to Chester at the end of May. They had a lot of snow to 
> deal with but they made it. The ranger thought they were nuts for 
> being out there too early. She said May is too early up there. Since 
> you don't like the snow, it might be too early for you.
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:16 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> 
> > Q #1: A jump over the high sierras from KM or Walker Pass should go 
> > where to maintain the highest average daily mileage pace?
> > A: Donner Summit. Best combination of low latitude and low 
> > elevation. Bar none. No question. Done deal. Even with the current 
> > 115% snow increase it beats the tar out of Oregon. Then go North 
> > until you want to do the high sierra. (Maybe jump back from 
> > Dunsmuir with that nice train station.) Then resume towards Canada 
> > within all due alacrity.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:36:28 -0500
> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food Drop Services
> To: "Paul Mitchell" <bluebrain at bluebrain.ca>, "'Scott Herriott'"
> <yetifan at yahoo.com>, "'Ron'" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>, "'Don
> Amundson'" <amrowinc at hotmail.com>, "'pct list'"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: 'Lynne Bunn' <lbunn at lonepinetv.com>
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> Last time (only time) I hiked up from Whitney Portal was a long time ago. Where do you get breakfast there? All I remember was the horse establishment.
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:51:09 +0000
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food Drop Services
> To: 'pct list' <pct-l at backcountry.net>, giniajim
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> ---- giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote: 
> > Last time (only time) I hiked up from Whitney Portal was a long time ago. Where do you get breakfast there? All I remember was the horse establishment.
> 
> Here:
> http://www.whitneyportalstore.com/
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:16:40 -0800
> From: "Jim Bravo" <jimbravo at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] revision no. 75 to hike plan
> To: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com"
> <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Diane:
> 
> Where did I say I don't like the snow? You made that one up. I am an older 
> hiker, not very fast, who has had knee surgery, etc. - I'm just trying to 
> figure out the best way to keep my daily mileage higher, and snow really 
> slows you down.
> 
> Jim
> 
> From: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com" <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> "Since you don't like the snow, it might be too early for you." 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:43:23 -0800
> From: Halfmile <list at lon.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] San Diego Hiker Hosting; Rides to the PCT
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Just repeating our hosting announcement for those who might have
> missed it last month. At this point we still have room most days.
> 
> ---------------
> 
> My girlfriend and I will be hosting PCT hikers in our apartment in
> Chula Vista, eight miles south of San Diego.
> 
> We can offer hikers a deluxe air mattress in our spare room or a sofa
> to sleep on, help with last minute errands, and early morning rides to
> the PCT. Because of work schedules and rush hour gridlock we may not
> always be able to pick you up at the airport, but a $5 bus/trolley
> ride goes from the airport or Amtrak station directly to our door. If
> you prefer the privacy of your own motel room, we can recommend nearby
> motels and help with errands and transportation to the trail.
> 
> Kickoff week we are going to try something different...
> We will be staying at the Lake Morena Campground April 18 - 22 and I
> will be commuting to Chula Vista for work. After work, I will take a
> carload of hikers back to the campground. After spending the night at
> the campground I can drop hikers at the start of the PCT on my way to
> work around sunrise.
> 
> We won't be able to do airport pickups Kickoff week, but a $5
> bus/trolley ride will take you from the airport or Amtrak station to
> the college campus where I work. A large grocery store and Rite Aid
> drugstore are across the street and we can swing by the Chula Vista
> REI on the way out of town. During kickoff week, I will return to Lake
> Morena Campground each day around 5 pm, so your flights will need to
> arrive in San Diego by early afternoon for this to be a good option.
> 
> Email halfmile at pctmap dot net and let us know how we can help.
> 
> -Halfmile
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:43:41 -0800
> From: Bigfoot CDA <bigfootcda at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Iodine
> To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
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> In SoCal in 03 there were brothers, the Chaos Twins who used iodine to treat
> water and by the time they hit Big Bear, one of them got sick from the
> Iodine. Are there any 03'ers out there that know what happened to them?
> Bigfoot(Jim)
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:02:11 -0800
> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Trailjournals gets hacked....
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> http://trailjournals.com/
> 
> ...courtesty of poor site desgin and everyone's favorite global scumbags, 
> TJ's gets hacked. It still there as of RIGHT NOW!
> 
> -postholer
> ------------------------------------
> Trail Journals, Google Trail Maps, Forums: http://postholer.com
> Pacific Crest Trail Photo Atlas: http://postholer.com/photoAtlas.php
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:45:22 EST
> From: Trailwife at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Crampons Advice
> To: jeremy.caves at gmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <1c2ec.7b6141c3.38bffa32 at aol.com>
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> 
> In a message dated 3/3/2010 4:20:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
> jeremy.caves at gmail.com writes:
> 
> What do you all think about whether crampons are necessary around this 
> time in the high Sierra?
> 
> 
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> I was born in Vermont and have spent a lot of winter hours in the 
> mountains of the Northeast. I hiked the Sierra in mid June last year and only used 
> my hiking poles. If I had been inexperienced I would have had some 
> problems. At age 69 I went slow and when "reading the snow" I was conservative.
> 
> What is your experience in the snow & ice?? 
> Only you can best judge your own abilities.
> 
> The Old RidgeRunner
> 
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