[pct-l] VVR2 / using the word 'shady'

[Junaid Dawud]

Ok. First off, my opinions were offered as just that, opinions. If you  
don't like my opinions or have some that run contrary to mine, that's  
great - I'm probably in the minority on this one. I'd like to think  
that the pct-l is a forum where reasonable minds may differ (though  
some of the silly wars I saw in 2006 and the current assault on the  
people hiking with a baby would suggest that this is not always so).

As Ive already said, VVR was a mistake FOR ME. I say that primarily  
because I think mono hotsprings is a better place FOR ME. Why? --->  
hotsprings, free camping, a PO, a warm lake with fun cliff jumping.

And again, as I've said, many liked vvr and I'm not trying to tell  
people that they should not go, indeed the pie alone could be worth  
the visit.

I did in fact talk to the owner about the resupply merchandise on his  
shelves. He said what others have said, he opens the unclaimed boxes  
at the end of the season and sells the stuff. For some thats fine, I  
do think it's shady. To my knowledge there are no other places we send  
packages that do this.

Some have urged me to offer a speedy and public apology so as to  
maintain the good will of the vvr folks to hikers and to avoid a  
lawsuit. Let me be clear, I will never offer such an apology. Ever. I  
stated my opinions and qualified them as such. I invited the VVR folks  
to offer their perspective, which they have. People with minds can  
read both sides and make their own decisions about what they want to do.

To the folks at VVR, I'd suggest that the persistence of the 'rumor'  
has much to do with the fact that there's some truth to it: unclaimed  
boxes become merchandise. I had boxes I didn't claim at other resupply  
points, they were returned to me. You might consider rethinking your  
practice, contact other businesses that cater to hikers and see how  
they handle unclaimed boxes.

Finally, get a grip people. It's a discussion forum, let's discuss  
without getting so worked up that spittle accumulates on our screens.

"above all else remember this: to thine own self be true."

Junaid