[pct-l] VVR2 / using the word 'shady'

[Randy Forsland]

The only other resupply point that comes to mind that is similar to VVR is
Muir Trail ranch. VVr and MTR are not like post offices or Trail Angel
resupply points. they have to spend a considerable amount of money to
transport the packages from the post office to their facilities. MTR
requires that you prepay for this service. If you do not prepay, then your
package will stay at the PO and will not make it to MTR. So, MTR does not
need to recoup any costs associated with delivering unclaimed packages.

VVR does not require that..you pay when you pick it up. If you don't show
up, then VVR has to eat the costs associated with the delivery. Perhaps VVR
should implement the prepay policy to keep from offending the sense of
entitlement that some thruhikers seem to have. The world does not revolve
around you. A business has a right to recoup costs. They are not out there
to make sure that your hike and your sensitivities are not offended.

I would hate to see VVR implement this policy, but I get tired of hearing
the trail police whine each season.

Redwood

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Junaid Dawud <jdawud at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok. First off, my opinions were offered as just that, opinions. If you
> don't like my opinions or have some that run contrary to mine, that's
> great - I'm probably in the minority on this one. I'd like to think
> that the pct-l is a forum where reasonable minds may differ (though
> some of the silly wars I saw in 2006 and the current assault on the
> people hiking with a baby would suggest that this is not always so).
>
> As Ive already said, VVR was a mistake FOR ME. I say that primarily
> because I think mono hotsprings is a better place FOR ME. Why? --->
> hotsprings, free camping, a PO, a warm lake with fun cliff jumping.
>
> And again, as I've said, many liked vvr and I'm not trying to tell
> people that they should not go, indeed the pie alone could be worth
> the visit.
>
> I did in fact talk to the owner about the resupply merchandise on his
> shelves. He said what others have said, he opens the unclaimed boxes
> at the end of the season and sells the stuff. For some thats fine, I
> do think it's shady. To my knowledge there are no other places we send
> packages that do this.
>
> Some have urged me to offer a speedy and public apology so as to
> maintain the good will of the vvr folks to hikers and to avoid a
> lawsuit. Let me be clear, I will never offer such an apology. Ever. I
> stated my opinions and qualified them as such. I invited the VVR folks
> to offer their perspective, which they have. People with minds can
> read both sides and make their own decisions about what they want to do.
>
> To the folks at VVR, I'd suggest that the persistence of the 'rumor'
> has much to do with the fact that there's some truth to it: unclaimed
> boxes become merchandise. I had boxes I didn't claim at other resupply
> points, they were returned to me. You might consider rethinking your
> practice, contact other businesses that cater to hikers and see how
> they handle unclaimed boxes.
>
> Finally, get a grip people. It's a discussion forum, let's discuss
> without getting so worked up that spittle accumulates on our screens.
>
> "above all else remember this: to thine own self be true."
>
> Junaid
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