[pct-l] Which GPS should I buy? (Jim Cribari)
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Thu May 27 00:09:07 CDT 2010
I am also looking to buy another GPS so I am finding these posts to be very helpful. For sure do not buy a DeLorme Earthmate. It was a huge waste of money. You have to carry an extra set of batteries. It is large and bulky and I found that it is unreliable in colder temperatures. I found the maps to very unfriendly and not compatible with other mapping software (such as Google Earth)
Re: Which GPS should I buy? (Bill Burge)
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1. Re: Oregon PCT (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
2. Re: Oregon PCT (Eric Lee)
3. Which GPS should I buy? (Molly Barth)
4. Re: Which GPS should I buy? (Bill Burge)
5. Re: Which GPS should I buy? (Melanie Clarke)
6. Pie Town Gear Closed (Jim Keener ( J J ) )
7. NOBO starters (Len Glassner)
8. Re: NOBO starters (Len Glassner)
9. Re: Is it a thru-hike? (Brick Robbins)
10. Re: Is it a thru-hike? (Paul Magnanti)
11. Re: Big Sky International (Pete Hanson)
12. Re: Pie Town Gear Closed (Bill Burge)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:20:48 -0700
From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon PCT
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The Mazama store is pretty close to the trail. You might ask if they
accept packages. They did have a hiker box. They also had a pretty
well-stocked store. You could probably make do if you wanted to skip
sending something entirely.
I sent to the Post Office and was able to get a ride pretty easily.
In fact, I ended up riding up to the rim afterwards and then hiking
down from the rim for a nice nero, then hitching back up to the rim
to continue.
Diane
On May 26, 2010, at 3:03 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> It's been awhile since I posted anything. But here I am again,
> this time with a question. I am planning to hike a long section
> from the Quincy-LaPorte Road south of Belden north to the Columbia
> Gorge. In Oregon, I will have no support (unless something changes
> from the present plans) and I am not sure of where to send a box
> around Crater Lake. Is there anyplace I can send a box to avoid
> having to go down to the post office in Crater Lake? What do
> people usually do around that area for resupply? Actually I intend
> to resupply at Ashland, and then after that, I am not sure where I
> could send boxes until I get to Sisters. Any suggestions? Thanks!
>
>
>
> Blue Butterfly
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Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:06:25 -0700
From: "Eric Lee" <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon PCT
To: "'Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com'"
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Diane wrote:
>
I sent to the Post Office and was able to get a ride pretty easily.
In fact, I ended up riding up to the rim afterwards and then hiking down
from the rim for a nice nero, then hitching back up to the rim to continue.
>
Be aware that hitchhiking in the park is actually illegal and in years past
the rangers have been fairly aggressive about enforcing that, for whatever
reason. Your mileage may vary.
Eric
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:07:40 -0700
From: Molly Barth <mafbarth at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Which GPS should I buy?
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Hi there --
I've been recently researching all the possible gps devices to buy for my
2011 thru-hike. Quickly, I was in over my head in techno-gargin.
>From what I understand, there some gps devices have pre-loaded maps or
include map software, while you must purchase map software separately for
other devices. If I am to use Halfmile's waypoints, do I need to load maps
as well? (see I'm totally lost...). What is the best affordable gps device
for the trip?
Thanks for you help!
-- Molly
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Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:52:05 -0700
From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Which GPS should I buy?
To: Molly Barth <mafbarth at gmail.com>
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It's a big question - and wait - there's MORE!
Questions, that is:
How do you see yourself using a GPS?
Stare at it feverishly as you walk down it's inscribed PCT line?
Check it every so often to compare to a paper map?
Somewhere in between?
Just to find campsite waypoints or water report markers?
Just want the coordinates to find on a paper map?
What would you do if you didn't have a GPS?
Stand like a statue until someone came along?
Refer to your paper map and compass?
Refer to your paper map?
So, <in my best Freud impression> tell me more.... ;-)
BillB
On May 26, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Molly Barth wrote:
> Hi there --
> I've been recently researching all the possible gps devices to buy for my
> 2011 thru-hike. Quickly, I was in over my head in techno-gargin.
>
>> From what I understand, there some gps devices have pre-loaded maps or
> include map software, while you must purchase map software separately for
> other devices. If I am to use Halfmile's waypoints, do I need to load maps
> as well? (see I'm totally lost...). What is the best affordable gps device
> for the trip?
>
> Thanks for you help!
>
> -- Molly
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:53:04 -0700
From: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Which GPS should I buy?
To: Molly Barth <mafbarth at gmail.com>
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Dear Molly,
*Halfmile posted this on 5/20* and I found it very useful. I ended up with
the 60CSx mostly because it was on sale at REI Anniversary Sale for $199.99
The Dakota 20 is also on sale but it comes with a bundled 100K topo and sold
for $300. The other varieties were not on sale but they have features (ie.
light weight) that made me wish I could convince myself to "pass up a sale
item" and pay full price. Amazon.com sells these GPS systems at a discount
price. Good Luck! I'm just getting to know my 60CSx right now. I'm old so
I'm "catching up" with the 21st century!
Melanie
*
For most hikers I recommend either a Garmin Dakota 20 or a Garmin
eTrex Vista HCx. You will probably also want to purchase a 4 GB
microSD card and the Garmin TOPO U.S. 24K West DVD. Get the DVD don't
buy the maps preloaded on a card.
The Dakota 20 is a newer model and has the capacity to store large
amounts of track data. The Vista HCx can only store a limited amount
of track data. Both can hold an almost unlimited number of waypoints
if you load them as custom points of interest.
Despite some of the previous posts here, these are very accurate; much
more accurate than any paper or digital map. The PCT is not always
accurately shown on maps, so I recommend loading waypoints and tracks
from my web site.
http://www.pctmap.net/download/
Hikers might want to consider two other GPS models.
The amazingly small Garmin Foretrex 401 weighs only 2.3 ounces (w/
lithium batteries) yet is a surprisingly good GPS that might appeal to
some lightweight hikers. This GPS does not have the capability to show
maps and has limited waypoint and track storage capacity; but it can
hold 500 waypoints and 10 somewhat course tracks so it should be
possible to preload it with maybe 500 miles of PCT data. You can
always use UTM coordinates assuming the maps you carry have UTM grids.
The Foretrex is lacking some of the features of the models above (like
maps) so it's not for everyone, but for a section hiker or someone who
is bouncing a small netbook computer up the trail, the tiny Foretex
401 is a powerful navigation tool in a very tiny package, especially
when used with my maps.
I personally usually carry a Garmin GPSMap 60CSx for my trail mapping
project. This is an excellent gps although it is slightly larger and
for that reason I recommend the Dakota and Vista for most hikers. It?s
great for trail logging however.
-Halfmile
*
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Molly Barth <mafbarth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there --
> I've been recently researching all the possible gps devices to buy for my
> 2011 thru-hike. Quickly, I was in over my head in techno-gargin.
>
> >From what I understand, there some gps devices have pre-loaded maps or
> include map software, while you must purchase map software separately for
> other devices. If I am to use Halfmile's waypoints, do I need to load maps
> as well? (see I'm totally lost...). What is the best affordable gps
> device
> for the trip?
>
> Thanks for you help!
>
> -- Molly
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:18:27 -0700
From: "Jim Keener ( J J ) " <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Pie Town Gear Closed
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Greetings,
I got a "disconnected" message when I called today. When I called the
Chamber of Commerce in Julian, the lady who answered confirmed that
the store had closed.
Jim Keener ( J J )
http://postholer.com/jj
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:31:59 -0700
From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] NOBO starters
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I just counted the thru-hikers who signed the border register, and as
best I could tell there's about 450 so far. This compares with a bit
less than 400 two years ago. (Can't find all my 2009 data.) The
interesting thing to note is that the number of starters during April
was about the same as two years ago, but the May starters were +50-60.
Hard to tell if someone is thru-hiking if they just write a date and
name. Generally I include those in the counts, so if anything the
numbers may be somewhat high.
No warranty expressed or implied.
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:42:11 -0700
From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] NOBO starters
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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com> wrote:
>?The interesting thing to note is that the number of starters during April
> was about the same as two years ago, but the May starters were +50-60.
>
April May
2008 300 80
2009 ? 80
2010 300 140
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:54:30 -0700
From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is it a thru-hike?
To: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Some people in the hiking community (esp the ONLINE hiking community) will
debate
> endlessly about what constitutes a thru-hike, purity and other inane issues
It is not a thru hike unless you walk pas every white blaze....
..... Oh wait, wrong trail, nevermind...
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is it a thru-hike?
To: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
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>It is not a thru hike unless you walk pas every white
> blaze....
>..... Oh wait, wrong trail, nevermind...
Heh... I've heard purity debates about the CDT of all trails, too. :)
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:47:56 -0700
From: Pete Hanson <peteflophanson at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Sky International
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I used the Evolution through Washington during my thru-hike in 2008. I
really like this tent. The only thing I recommend is to make sure you
get the 1 person tent with 2 doors. The tent is symmetrical with good
sized vestibules on both sides - if you get the 1 door version you
won't be able to access one of the vestibules from the inside of the
tent.
Flop
> From: jomike at cot.net
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:05:17 -0700
> Subject: [pct-l] Big Sky International
>
> Anyone familiar with Big Sky tents? Specifically the Evolution.
>
> are we there yet
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:38:20 -0700
From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pie Town Gear Closed
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That's a bummer. We bought stuff when we were in Julian in December on a pie
eating expedition. We chatted with the gal who ran it for quite a while. (She
has a boy a lot like mine...)
I think it used to be closer to the middle of town. In the last location, they
were at the end, near the cemetery where walk-by traffic was going to be
limited.
It's also sad that Julian doesn't have a better defined offering for the hiking
community. We had trouble finding info on hikes in the area and there are
plenty. The City/Chamber of Commerce/What to Do in Julian style websites have
little on hiking that doesn't fall into the .5 - 4 mile range. We did one from
the Santa Ysabel info and while it was nice, it was almost bikepath wide and
smooth.
BillB
On May 26, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Jim Keener ( J J ) wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I got a "disconnected" message when I called today. When I called the
> Chamber of Commerce in Julian, the lady who answered confirmed that
> the store had closed.
>
> Jim Keener ( J J )
> http://postholer.com/jj
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