[pct-l] Bikers on the PCT

[Edward Anderson]

That would not stop them. They would see the "bump gates" as a challenge.  They 
would make their own bypass loop trails to go around the gate bumps.  They would 
sneak in and modify and enlarge the bumps to become "jumps".  They would damage 
the trail even more by digging rocks and soil from next to it to build the 
ramps.  I have seen a lot of all of this on trails where they are allowed.  
Besides - enforcement by Rangers would put Rangers who have been layed off back 
to work. And that could (should) be funded by the fines. Of course, in time the 
violators would get the message and quit illegaly using the PCT. And is that not 
what we want?  Hopefully, by then our economy will have recovered enough to keep 
the Rangers fully employed.

MendoRider


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From: Nelson's <benelson at ktc.com>
To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 11:29:33 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bikers on the PCT

Wouldn't it be easer to make the trail itself unfriendly to bikers, how about 
bump gates on the long down hill runs. Cheaper than enforcement.
Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Anderson" <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
To: <lucymann at comcast.net>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bikers on the PCT


What is needed is called ENFORCEMENT - including appropriate penaltys for
violations to get the message across. Obviously more is needed than just a sign
of a bycycle (or motorcycle) with a diagonal red slash. What is needed is an
additional sign indicating that there will be FINES for violations. The bikers
are well aware that they don't belong on the PCT. Start with a written citation
with just a warning on the first offence. After that the consequences for
violations should become greater - substantial fines and possibly impounding the
illegal wheeled vehicle. It should cost them money to get it back.

How to do this? In America today JOBS are needed. I say hire enforcement
Rangers. Due to cutbacks there are many Rangers now out of work. The FINES
could be used to pay thier saleries.

I have met Medicare Pastor on several occasions. Most recently in Vasquez Park
in Agua Dulce where I live. She is a very special person.

MendoRider



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From: "lucymann at comcast.net" <lucymann at comcast.net>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 9:32:03 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Bikers on the PCT




I read an interesting (and depressing) entry in Medicare Pastor's Trail Journal
today and wanted to comment on it here. What, if anything, can be done about the
increasing violations of bikers on the PCT? I personally ran into a biker on the
PCT on Saturday north of Stampede Pass who claimed he didn't know he was on the
PCT and apparently was blind because there were at least a dozen PCT signs.
Medicare Pastor ran into many more. It makes one feel so impotent to see the
flagrant violations and not be able to do anything about it. Do any of you have
any recommendations? She took pictures as they laughed and taunted her. I have
decided to take pictures and post them on the Washington Trails Association's
trip report site to at least publicize the problem but I really don't know what
good it will do.




http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=332018



Lucy Mann
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