[pct-l] Managing condensation;

Sat Apr 2 00:11:03 CDT 2011

I accidentally brought my old knit beanie along recently, the kind that roll
up on the sides.  I found out that at night I can pull this down just past
my nose and am usually ok.  However, when it was really cold it went over my
mouth also and the knit was open enough that I could breathe ok.  Worked
pretty good.

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Paul Robison
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:20 PM
To: Edward Anderson
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Managing condensation;

with the vestibules open,  even open just the bottom 18 inches or so i seem
to 
be able to keep it at bay...

... it's more when i cinch it down tight.   being from the 'double walled' 
world... i would cinch my heavier marmot tent down right to the ground, and
the 
rainfly would flow water inside and out;  but it would not get into the mesh

area that i sleep in.

with the single wall tent;  you don't have the option of just ignoring 
condensation.  

last night we did everything cinched down tight all the way;  tonight we
will 
keep a side open.  it's warmer tonight, but it pouring rain right now,  
currently the tent is holding; though one stake got pulled out of the
ground;  
it folded in on itself on that corner, and the bathtub floor did it's job,
the 
quilt is still dry.

one thing i definitely need is some kind of face muff;  i felt like my nose
and 
lips were going to fall off, despite having sweaty feet.

... anyone have good suggestions on how to keep the face warm without
feeling 
suffocated?

________________________________
From: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 7:10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Managing condensation;

 Paul,  I never had a condensation problem when I had the rain fly up on my 
Hubba tent. It is pretty well ventilated.  I didn't often use the rain fly -

only if I wanted privacy or when it was raining or when my barometer
indicated 
that it might rain or snow. I did have to put it on in the middle of night a

couple of times when I was wrong and it rained. Most often I did not need
the 
rain fly at all. I did appreciate the netting to keep the insects and other 
critters out. And I like to be able to look outside - and to see my horse
and 
nature all around. I never stored food inside my tent. Those who do
sometimes 
have rodents chew there way in.

MendoRider

________________________________
 From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
To: pctl <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 8:07:37 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Managing condensation;

Hello all,

So last year I did a double walled tent and it was pretty straight forward;

take the fly off and shake lime he'll ( it would be soaked top and bottom,
but 
nothing would get In the mesh part of the tent.

This year we are trying a hybrid tarptent;  which is roomy; airy;  but last 
night got covered in condensation,  inside and out.

We had he whole thing sealed up,  flaps closed, vestibules closed... To try
and 
keep some cold out...  But it ended up being a sheet of frost outside and 
significant ice inside... 

Obviously  in warm weather just leave the vestibules drawn back... But any
good 
tips for the cold nights (last year we'd be in the 20's F.)  to manage
keeping 
cold out and not filling with water inside.

Our quilt was PLENTY warm so if we need to just leave the vestibules open to
the 
winter wind let me know,

Thanks so much for any feedback and advice,

Paul

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