[pct-l] Deep Creek Detour

Tue Apr 5 17:39:29 CDT 2011

that sounds AWESOME! YEH! I drive an old VW Bus so I can't be 4 wheelin anywhere 
lol u think the bus will make it? Do u have a gas powered barbie cuz if not I 
can just bring my two burner out and we'll boil them babies! I will be in 
Idyllwild all summer where are u Sheperd?

Sugar Moma  

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From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
To: halfmile at pctmap.net; patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 2:01:35 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Deep Creek Detour

Patti, Halfmile

I drove on the detour road just the other day.  I was not able to drive the 
whole way as there was a flooded section where two streams converge and the 
water level was over two feet high.  This was near the convergence with 2N75.  I 
hiked from there out to HWY 173.  The rest of it looked good.  Low clearance 
vehicles are not advised for the Willow Creek crossing but higher clearance 
vehicles should do okay. 

My understanding is that a storm is predicted up here from Thursday through 
Saturday with snow levels down to 2000 feet.  You may not be able to drive out 
there again until sometime the next week.

While I was scouting the area, I was thinking that water might be is short 
supply and need to be brought out there as the heard comes through.  I will be 
checking with the rangers to see how the streams flow/dry up, their office is 
closed until Thursday.

I don't know what you had in mind as far as magic but you should know that the 
area was burned in a wild fire just a few years back and is in the process of 
recovery.  Cooking fires may be prohibited.  I'll ask.

The thought had occurred to me to set something up on the south side of the 
Silverwood Dam.  There is access via a paved road (HWY173) and the parking lot 
is only 100 yards from where the trail crosses.  I checked with the rangers and 
a gas powered Bar-B-Q would be permitted.  My thinking ran toward Hot dogs, 
burgers and cold drinks.

Interested in working together?

Shepherd

--- On Tue, 4/5/11, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Deep Creek Detour
>To: halfmile at pctmap.net, "Amanda L Silvestri" <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 12:00 PM
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>boo on Deep Creek being closed that was one of my biggest places to look forward 
>to when I was hiking :-( Halfmile...so u know if the road to the detour Th is 
>open yet/? Last I heard it was closed also. Just wondering if we could go out 
>and do some magic there.
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>Sugar Moma  
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 From: Halfmile <list at lon.net>
>To: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 11:21:15 AM
>Subject: [pct-l] Deep Creek Detour
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>My maps and GPS data of the Deep Creek detour are ready and available
>for downloading here:
>http://www.pctmap.net/detour/index.html
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>The same maps will be available from www.pcta.org shortly if you
>prefer to download them there.
>
>-Halfmile
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>On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:
>> I spent the day scouting the Deep Creek Detour.  The Forest Service came up 
>>with the same plan I did.  I don't know if that speaks well of them or poorly of 
>>me.  Oh well.
>>
>> The route is marked with new RED fiberglass sign posts for the temporary 
>>route.  Occasionally there is a PCT decal on a Forest Service sign also.  There 
>>can be a great distance between markers but then there are not a lot of 
>>intersections.  If you come to an intersection that confuses you, just stay on 
>>Forest Service Road 3N34 until you reach the paved 2-lane road, HWY 173.  Turn 
>>right and follow that to where is becomes a dirt road and then hike down the 
>>mountain until you rejoin the trail.
>>
>> The detour is through an area that was burned  a few years back.  There are few 
>>trees, mostly chaparral.  Today was April 1st and it was hot and dry.  There 
>>were a number of very small streams running but I would expect them to be dry by 
>>the time the heard gets here.  There was one creek that might still have some 
>>water, Willow Creek.  It was about 3/4 of the way through and I wouldn't count 
>>on it unless the Forest Service says that it is running.  Treat this area like 
>>the high desert.  If you have an umbrella, you will need it, as shade is rare.  
>>Carry a lot of water.  If you can do this early in the morning or in the 
>>evening, that would be best.
>>
>> Oh yea, as this is a dirt road and not a hiking trail, it tends to go up and 
>>down a lot.  There are ruts in it from rain run off and some of the curves tend 
>>to have rather high banks.  You start out with an up hill pull, but most of it 
>>is rolling hills, they are not too  tall.  The end of this section involves a 
>>long but gradual climb to a staging area for motocross type motorcycles and quad 
>>runners, some of which you may well meet on your way.
>>
>> I don't think that there is any water once you reach 173 either.  You have to 
>>descend the mountain and go to the Mojave River.  That is going to be a long dry 
>>stretch.  I might try and set up a Cache or two along the way.  Would anyone be 
>>interested in helping me with doing this?
>>
>> Shepherd
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