[pct-l] shipping fuel canisters

[Ryan Hull]

Third try's the charm?  Sorry Tom for the email spam...

*Sigh* why do these things have to be so confusing?  :-P  Thanks for the
clarification Ken and all.  I just want to get out there and get moving.
 Sorry if I scared anyone by accident!

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com> wrote:

> The quote on White Blaze refers to UPS not USPS. I have talked to both UPS
> and FedEx about shipping small quantities (Consumer Commodity) of fuel. In
> order to ship any fuel I had to register as a Hazmat shipper. Oodles of
> paper work that I didn't even look at, other than the size.
>
> There has been a change in regulations for the trucking industry regarding
> the shipping of hazardous gases and/or liquids. So far the Postal
> Regulations have not changed.
>
> You can still ship fuel at the Post Office by labeling your package "ORM-D
> Consumer Commodity" and "Ground Only".   The primary container (canister)
> must be metal and the volume is less that 1 liter per package (mail piece
> in
> USPS jargon). see paragraph 10.12.3 on this page:
> http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/601.htm#wp1065036   The way I read it you
> can
> ship two 110 gram canisters or one 220 gram canister in each package. A
> thru-hiker is unlikely to want to mail more than that.
>
> Paragraph 10.14 addresses solid fuels, i.e.  Esbits. If securely packaged
> they can also be shipped as "ORM-D Consumer Commodity".
>
>
> All the info on http://www.gottawalk.com/shipping_fuel.htm is still
> correct
> except that USPS reorganized their webpages. Follow the link above to find
> the same information on a new webpage.
>
> I recommend you take a printout of my webpage to the Post Office when you
> mail your first package containing fuel. (You may want to take it along
> every time, in case you get a new postal clerk.) Be nice, but persistent
> with the postal clerks. If they look into the postal regulations they will
> find fuel can be shipped in small quantities.
>
> Ken
>
> PS   Thanks to everyone who sent me a copy of this post.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Hull" <rynos1234 at gmail.com>
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:03 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] shipping fuel canisters
>
>
> I don't want to add to the confusion of using canister stoves, but
> apparently the common reference of
> http://www.gottawalk.com/shipping_fuel.htmI is incorrect about shipping
> fuel
> canisters.  I just stumbled across this posting on whiteblaze:
> http://whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8311&page=6.  Scroll down a
> bit
> to see the update.  As of 2009, fuel canisters cannot be shipped without a
> hazmat fee due to the fact that most butane canisters can actually hold
> more
> than the 4 ounces of fuel they are shipped with.
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