[pct-l] RE Sad News
linsey
mowoggirl at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 23 15:08:34 CST 2011
Get over it Fireweed. If you don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Nothing R. Metzger ever posted is as mean as what you just wrote. Nobody is making read these posts. Thanks to whiners like you, girls like me who want it can't get any sexual harassment anymore. Realize that not everyone shares your opinion.
Sincerely, Lollygag--a hiker chick who is against all censorship.
[pct-l] Sad Newsmkwart at gci.net mkwart at gci.net
Thu Dec 22 01:40:03 CST 2011
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I was in Mexico when I followed the entire "History of Backpacking"
debacle on this list serve earlier this month. The origin was a post by
Rheinhold Metzger that was only loosely about hiking, but mostly a
political rant by a "conservative" targeting "liberals". I kept track of
all the responses and give and take, although did not get involved with
a response although I felt the post was a thinly veiled attempt at a
poltitical post on a hiking site. The man Rheinhold Metzger has offended many people who participate in
this forum with his political rants and demeaning jokes about women. It
is not just "difference of opinion" but goes beyond that to gender
harrassment. I have learned to just scroll through his posts (and the
answering posts from Swithback). I have felt repeatedly demeaned and
offended by his re-occurring jokes about women. In the general work a
day society, which most people who contribute to this list exist in,
comments that he posts on this website about women would be grounds for
filing gender harrassment suits at work. But not on this website. It is
important that the manager of the website have zero tolerance for gender
harrassment, which does not exist on this list serve. Without the
support of the manager of the website, there is no use in complaining
about Rheinhold's demeaning jokes. That is the "sad news" for me. So I continue to monitor this list serve for the valuable information
that is available here, Sometime Rheinhold has valuable information.
Because of his practice of demeaning jokes and rants, I just as a matter
of habit scroll through his messages. I won't block him from my inbox.
What he does when he makes demeaning and stereotyped comments about
women is wrong by any standard outside of this list serve and I won't
shut my eyes to it. I am not the "brother" of anyone who makes demeaning jokes about women.
Although I am not the person who submitted his name for deletion from
this list serve, I can wholeheartedly understand the reasoning that led
the person to do this. Oh yeah--this is for Brick---I do not have cabin fever--having just
returned from a trip to Mexico and also two days ago hiked 8 miles on
the PCT near Ashland, Oregon. --Fireweed
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