[pct-l] Insulation layer

Mon Feb 14 01:55:58 CST 2011

Hmm rain-wise, I've been bringing my extra large rain pancho. It's actually
big enough to cover my pack if it's not too stuffed, but I still wanted to
carry a ripstop nylon light jacket for lighter rain or mornings. A down vest
or a thick fleece layer is sounding pretty good so far.. But I can always
jump in my down Marmot sleeping bag when the sun goes down.
Thanks for all the input guys!
-Axel

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Yoshihiro Murakami <
completewalker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Melanie
>
> I am very late to this topic, since I only read some of the topic on
> this mailing list.
>
> Your decision is right. I think rain suits is a must. The rain suits
> protect you from hypothermia, even when you are completely wet,
> because it protects you from the wind chill effects.
>
> I am a heavy trucker, but my layer system is very simple.
>
> Upper body
> 1. T-shirts 2 or 3 set   ( The old NorthFace Tech Underwear, very
> expensive, but durable, I am using for many years. )
> 2.long sleeve underwear   ( NorthFace Tech Underwear )
> 3.rain wear
>
> Lower body
> 1. brief  ( undergarment )
> 2. long pants underwear  ( NorthFace Tech Underwear )
> 3. shorts +  long gaiters
> I think shorts and gaiters make hypothetical long pants. When I sleep,
> I wear long sleeve and long underwear( pants) . These are my night
> wear.
>
> for tent wear , I have a very light weight down vest or a down jacket.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2011/2/12 Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>:
> > Thank you everyone!!
> >
> > Well, the votes are in so I will carry rain gear.  I like the rain gear
> > recommendations so I'm going to try on some things at REI and then
> decide.
> >
> > Melanie
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This idea comes up occasionally on a couple DIY gear forums I visit. It
> can
> >> work. People have modified their fly and added a hood.
> >>
> >> The biggest downfall is, by wearing your fly as a poncho, you risk
> putting
> >> holes in your fly. Leaky raingear will just make you a little wetter
> while
> >> hiking, but if you then get to camp and have a leaky shelter, you could
> be
> >> in trouble.
> >>
> >> I agree with others, you would be better served with a light weight item
> >> dedicated to the task of keeping you dry while hiking.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Melanie Clarke <
> melaniekclarke at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Mango,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I am nervous about leaving my down jacket behind but I have
> this
> >>> exact same experience, I just don't use it or seem to need it.  I only
> >>> plan
> >>> to do the Southern CA section to Hwy 58 anyway.  I get really heated
> when
> >>> I
> >>> hike.  I hike in just a fleece jacket down to 30 degrees, sometimes
> shorts
> >>> even.  Then I have a nice bag and tent when I stop to sleep.
> >>>
> >>> How much does it rain in Southern California, Diane or anyone???  I
> lived
> >>> in
> >>> So. Cal for about 6-7 years and I never remember it raining past March.
> >>>  In
> >>> my ultra-lite dreams I'm thinking that I'm even going to leave the rain
> >>> gear
> >>> behind and wrap myself in my tent fly if it does start to rain.  (I've
> >>> gone
> >>> over the tarp vs. tent in my head and the tent still wins out).  I like
> to
> >>> be in a tent with a fly when it rains, but that's just me and I can
> double
> >>> the fly as a rain poncho.
> >>>
> >>> Is this advisable?  I would like to hear both sides of this argument.
> >>>
> >>> Melanie
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Axel,
> >>> >
> >>> > Here's another option - carry additional base layers and a windshirt
> >>> > instead of a down jacket, which would have very limited use.  Last
> year
> >>> I
> >>> > carried a set of silks, a smartwool top and Cap 2 bottoms, my
> standard
> >>> > long-sleeve hiking shirt and convertible hiking pants, a windshirt,
> and
> >>> > silnylon rain pants and parka.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > At KM I sent myself a heavy snow jacket with heavy fleece liner and
> >>> hardly
> >>> > used it.  I did put on the liner once, but I could have gotten by
> okay
> >>> > without it.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > When you're hiking you rarely need anything besides the hiking shirt
> and
> >>> > pants - maybe silks and rain gear.  You can start out in the
> windshirt,
> >>> but
> >>> > you'll warm up within 30 minutes and take it off.  When you stop, put
> >>> the
> >>> > windshirt back on.  In camp, put everything on until you're finished
> >>> setting
> >>> > up, eating, cleaning up, etc.  Then get in the bag.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > With really warm outer wear, you'd be carrying extra weight for use
> only
> >>> > for short duration at the very beginning and end of the day.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Mango
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > > I was wondering if i could have some recommendations as to what
> kind
> >>> of
> >>> > > > > insulating jacket to use (weight/materials). I've heard a lot
> >>> about
> >>> > > down,
> >>> > > > > even though it becomes relatively useless when wet. Any
> opinions
> >>> are
> >>> > > > > appreciated, but to narrow things down, I'm trying to go for
> the
> >>> most
> >>> > > > > reasonable price possible.
> >>> > > > > Thanks and happy trails!
> >>> > > > > -Axel
> >>> > >
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