[pct-l] Sleeping Pads

[Kevin Cook]

I'm not sure if CF would work well for that application. I have less
experience with the material then many folks, but from my working with it so
far, puncture resistance doesn't seem to be it's strongest asset. Abrasion
resistance definitely isn't.

Rather than making the little sleeve, what's wrong with the Tyvek as a
groundcloth? You're not worried about puncturing the NeoAir from the top are
you? For the same weight, ie lay that amount of tyvek flat, I get a nice
clean area to camp on. One other disadvantage of this idea is it negates the
NeoAir's non-stick feature. I've had several therma rests over the years.
Many have been slippery so your bag would slide off during the night. The
NeoAIr seems to have solved that. It's amazingly tacky. That was one of the
first things I noticed (right after the shocking light weight of course).

I'll just stick with my Tyvek under the pad and gain the benefit of a clean
place to put my pack and stuff.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:19 AM, John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Now I have just got to say this is a brilliant freaking idea!!
>
> NeoAir Condom - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_52AZ2gWlE#t=03m44s
>
> I wonder how much something like this would weigh... and how it would
> actually help against pine needles and rocks and such.
>
> Hmm, even more wondering... I wonder how much it would weigh if we had one
> made with 1.26 oz/sqyd Cuben Fiber fabric!!
>
> Anybody out there who is good at math be able to figure out the sqyd of the
> NeoAir small?? Guess from that we could determine how much it would weigh,
> huh.
>
> Might even get away with using .74 oz/sqyd... but not sure going to .51
> would be all that much of a good idea...
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Great instructions for something they should offer as a product.  I still
> > love my neo, as much as when you saw me with it Paul, in the deserts.  It
> > held up fine, but others had some trouble with leaks.  Mango used to have
> to
> > blow it back up in the middle of the night, and one other person had a
> > similar problem.
> >
> >  I was not cold sleeping on very cold ground and rock in the Sierra, but
> I
> > did have a bag, but was cowboy camping most of the time.  Be careful with
> it
> > and it should last.  I think Mango said it had a leak from the beginning,
> so
> > maybe he just got a defective one.
> >
> > Shroomer
> >
> >
> >
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