[pct-l] PCT thru timing for 2012

[Wes Rose]

The fact that Postholer.com has ceased promulgating the commercial advertisements of
      Mountain Education, reasonably or not, is certainly the right of the web master.  In light of
      the professional courtesy given Mountain Education by Postholer.com that said content will
     no longer be published on the site, the "tattle-tale" post from Mountain education (shown below)
     is in very poor taste.

All of the advice given on the list regarding start dates and hiker safety by Mountain Education
     appeal to the legitimacy and necessity of it's services.  (Aka - marketing).  Mountain Education's
     response to Postholer's inquiries is like watching a game of dodge ball - duck the issue, come back with a smiling,
     cheerful attitude and get ready to dodge the next one.  Why not just say, "well yeah, we're selling
     a service here that depends on early departure dates!" and be done with it?  That would at least be honest.

The list has many contributors who also sell a commercial product that is relevent to the PCT, such
     as Yogi's Handbook, One Pan Wonders, Tarptent, Stickpic & PCT Atlas to name a few.  What  would
     the list would look like if all of these individuals took the same liberties as Mountain Education in 
     marketing their products and services on the list?


[pct-l] PCT thru timing for 2012
ned at mountaineducation.org ned at mountaineducation.org 
Tue Jul 12 21:49:35 CDT 2011 

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Scott (Postholer),

We have known each other for two years. You have been gracious to allow us 
to reach, educate, offer skills training courses and information about them, 
and discuss other safety-related snow-hiking topics via your Postholer site 
for those two years. We invited you to join us, once, but you declined, 
saying that you're not a fan of the snow. For your hosting, we thank you.

It is a sad day when you respond to our dissenting voice (our opinions do 
not agree) by blocking viewers from seeing our Forum on your site. You 
certainly have that right; it is your site. For everyone else in our hiking 
community, this is what Scott decided to do:

"Hey Ned,

I've changed the status on your forum so only you can view/edit etc:
http://postholer.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=25

I feel so strongly that you are promoting incredibly bad advice that I
do not wish to have the postholer site associated with you or Mountain
Education.

The forum will be there indefinitely, just hidden, so you can remove
what content you need to.

Best of luck,
Scott"