Good morning, John, Here is a link to the PCT-L archives with more discussion regarding the climb north from Seiad. http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/2010-August/040184.html Steel-Eye -Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965 -http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye -http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09