[pct-l] first night out

[Gerry Zamora]

Just wondering does anyone bring a gun?  Wild life is not a concern but
people that's another story.
On Mar 17, 2011 9:31 AM, "Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> Your advice is sound. In 2008 Robocop camped between the border and Lake
> Morena. He was off-trail and during the night nobody bothered him. But, at
> first light, the illegals came to his camp and opened his tent flap to see
> what he had. Keep in mind, they didn't just start their trip and they were
> looking for food, water and possibly money - which all hikers will have
with
> them.
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:36 AM
> To: CHUCK CHELIN
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; shelly skye
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] first night out
>
> Use one of the start date lists (here or postholer) to determine if anyone
> is starting when you do. Maybe you can convince another hiker to take an
> easy first day also. Even if they start early, you could night hike a
couple
> hours and still cover several miles. I have no intention of making it to
> lake morena on day 1. Hauser Creek seems like a good goal, but if there is
> no water there, I may just camp on the ridge above it.
>
> See you on the trail! :)
>
> Misspellings and typos brought to you by iPhone.
>
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:
>
>> Good morning, Shelly,
>>
>> I avoid camping anywhere between the border and Lake Morena due to the
> high
>> probability of encountering illegal aliens. I've encountered a dozen or
> so
>> non English-speaking people with little or no gear walking on the PCT or
>> loitering in the area, particularly in the "shelter" of the timber in
> Hauser
>> Creek Canyon. They've never given me the least problem, but I'm a guy and
>> the encounters were in broad daylight, and with numerous other PCT hikers
> in
>> the area.
>>
>> I don't think the prevalence of Border Patrol vehicles and helicopters in
>> the area is because they have nothing else better to do, nor do I think
> they
>> provide sufficient deterrent/protection. It may, and probably will be,
>> reasonably safe to camp in that stretch but I don't choose to encourage
> the
>> risk.
>>
>> A day's hike north of Lake Morena the risk is very much reduced; in my
>> opinion to near-zero.
>>
>> If I though I simply must overnight in the area I would inquire if I
could
>> pitch somewhere close to locals in or around Campo.
>>
>> Steel-Eye
>>
>> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT - 1965
>>
>> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>>
>> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:16 AM, shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> HI all. I am searching for an opinion or two, or more should it come to
>>> that... It appears I will be getting a late start the day I leave Campo
> and
>>> am wondering if the small seasonal creek 4.2 miles in is a safe place to
>>> bed
>>> down for the night. I'll have plenty of water so that won't be an issue,
>>> I'm
>>> just wondering how safe it is to park myself there for the night. Solo
>>> woman
>>> and all. Or if not, any other ideas about what would be safer? Thanks
for
>>> your help!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shelly
>>>
>>> "We are not lost. We are searching alternative destinations."
>>> Unknown author
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