[pct-l] first night out

[Eric]

/drippingsarcasm.

Hahahaha! Seriously though, don't take a gun. Especially if you don't have a
concealed carry permit.

Regards,
Eric
www.primalpct.com

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yep, I pack a gun.  In fact, I always have one attached to my hip belt,
> plus
> a backup strapped around my ankle.
>
> yogi
> www.pcthandbook.com
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Gerry Zamora <gerry0625 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just wondering does anyone bring a gun?  Wild life is not a concern but
> > people that's another story.
> > On Mar 17, 2011 9:31 AM, "Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > > Your advice is sound. In 2008 Robocop camped between the border and
> Lake
> > > Morena. He was off-trail and during the night nobody bothered him. But,
> > at
> > > first light, the illegals came to his camp and opened his tent flap to
> > see
> > > what he had. Keep in mind, they didn't just start their trip and they
> > were
> > > looking for food, water and possibly money - which all hikers will have
> > with
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> > pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:36 AM
> > > To: CHUCK CHELIN
> > > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; shelly skye
> > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] first night out
> > >
> > > Use one of the start date lists (here or postholer) to determine if
> > anyone
> > > is starting when you do. Maybe you can convince another hiker to take
> an
> > > easy first day also. Even if they start early, you could night hike a
> > couple
> > > hours and still cover several miles. I have no intention of making it
> to
> > > lake morena on day 1. Hauser Creek seems like a good goal, but if there
> > is
> > > no water there, I may just camp on the ridge above it.
> > >
> > > See you on the trail! :)
> > >
> > > Misspellings and typos brought to you by iPhone.
> > >
> > > On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Good morning, Shelly,
> > >>
> > >> I avoid camping anywhere between the border and Lake Morena due to the
> > > high
> > >> probability of encountering illegal aliens. I've encountered a dozen
> or
> > > so
> > >> non English-speaking people with little or no gear walking on the PCT
> or
> > >> loitering in the area, particularly in the "shelter" of the timber in
> > > Hauser
> > >> Creek Canyon. They've never given me the least problem, but I'm a guy
> > and
> > >> the encounters were in broad daylight, and with numerous other PCT
> > hikers
> > > in
> > >> the area.
> > >>
> > >> I don't think the prevalence of Border Patrol vehicles and helicopters
> > in
> > >> the area is because they have nothing else better to do, nor do I
> think
> > > they
> > >> provide sufficient deterrent/protection. It may, and probably will be,
> > >> reasonably safe to camp in that stretch but I don't choose to
> encourage
> > > the
> > >> risk.
> > >>
> > >> A day's hike north of Lake Morena the risk is very much reduced; in my
> > >> opinion to near-zero.
> > >>
> > >> If I though I simply must overnight in the area I would inquire if I
> > could
> > >> pitch somewhere close to locals in or around Campo.
> > >>
> > >> Steel-Eye
> > >>
> > >> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT - 1965
> > >>
> > >> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
> > >>
> > >> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:16 AM, shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> HI all. I am searching for an opinion or two, or more should it come
> to
> > >>> that... It appears I will be getting a late start the day I leave
> Campo
> > > and
> > >>> am wondering if the small seasonal creek 4.2 miles in is a safe place
> > to
> > >>> bed
> > >>> down for the night. I'll have plenty of water so that won't be an
> > issue,
> > >>> I'm
> > >>> just wondering how safe it is to park myself there for the night.
> Solo
> > >>> woman
> > >>> and all. Or if not, any other ideas about what would be safer? Thanks
> > for
> > >>> your help!
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Shelly
> > >>>
> > >>> "We are not lost. We are searching alternative destinations."
> > >>> Unknown author
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