[pct-l] Conditions on section C

Carol Whitehouse carolwbruno at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 17 13:37:06 CDT 2011


Is anyone aware of current conditions on section c?  I heard some areas had been washed out and a walk around was suggested.  I am planning to hike a large portion of that section before and after the kickoff.  Any prediction of snow levels about that time?  Thanks.
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:11:51 -0400
From: <jape1 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] One person tent
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Under 3 pounds, double wall, around $100 you might look at the tent reviewed on the URL below

http://www.modernhiker.com/2009/09/15/review-eureka-spitfire-1/

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Sam Griffin <samgriffin4 at gmail.com>
wrote:

I've decided that I need to change my sleep set up. After repeatedly
getting
soaked in my GoLite Shangri-La 1 on numerous sleet/wet snow ridden
practice
jaunts (not so much through seam leakage, but, when under hard
rain/snow/sleet the tarp itself becomes a giant lake of condensation and
very very heavy, giving one no head room and little room to move without
my
bag smearing against the material), I think I want to move to a tent.

Can anyone recommend a lightweight, relatively compact one person tent?
Heard good things about the Hubba.

Thanks,

Sam


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:21:15 -0700
From: Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost Coast
To: John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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so no leash = irresponsible owner?

I have to take issue with that. Mine are rarely on a leash in my backyard
forest. Granted, I tend to hike the local trails more then the USFS ones.
Out here, most dogs are off lead. Maybe 1 in 20 will be on a leash, and
every time the owner says it's because the dog is not well behaved.

I do consider myself a responsible dog owner. Maybe I can get away with no
leash because of the months and months of daily training time I put in with
my dogs. Mine actually are under voice control more often than not.

Anyway, it's good to hear that norcal can stay on the list ;)  One of the
reasons we want my wife to travel along with me in the truck is so she can
scout for where we would like to live after my hike.

I'm pretty excited that I'll have Doc with me for a lot of the trail now.
I'm sure he would be excited too if I could help him comprehend that :p

See you all on the trail! I'll be the guy hiking with the big lovable Flat
Coat that has his own pack. :)

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:37 AM, John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com
wrote:

Yeah, the vast majority of the time it is the "irresponsible dog owners"
fault.

A couple days ago I was on one of the most popular trails up here
(Headwater Forest Trail) doing some jogging and I come around a corner
and some guy and his dog are also jogging, and all of a sudden his dog
takes off in a full run at me and 4 or 5 other guys (I was in the
front of the group). Thankfully I had my hiking pole in my hand, it
was the only thing that saved me. Others behind me are sitting there
yelling at the guy to put the dog on a leash, like, you know, is
required by law on that trail. Had the dog been a leash (like the
dozen or so other dogs on the trail that day) I highly doubt an issue
would have flared up. Around here more and more people are starting to
get aggressive towards irresponsible dog *owners* who fail to keep
their dogs on leashes - which is a nice thing to see.

That said, of the dozen or so other dogs on the trail that were under
the control of responsible dog owners, it was a pleasure to be out
there with them and see them enjoying some running and getting out of
their houses/pens/kennels.

John



On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Benjamin Grunbaum
<bengrunbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
Kevin
I live up on the north coast and have never once had anything progress to
the point that John has in relation to untrained dogs.  I have
encountered
them but one way or another they have always went their own way.  I will
admit I use to work one on one with large cats (tigers, leopards, bobcats
and servals) at a sanctuary in southern California.  Anyways, if you were
thinking of moving up here it is a wonderful place in its own right with
both good and bad.  The good far outweigh the bad.  The area up here is
bountiful when it comes to outdoor activities.  Anyways, for what ever
reason John has the worst luck when it comes to irresponsible dog owners
and
their untrained dogs.  I would take his experience lightly.  I do not
know
anyone else who has had such luck.

Ben Grunbaum




On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, I'm now grateful for the canine citizens in my "backyard". Maybe I
don't want to move to norcal after my hike? lol

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:21 PM, John Abela <
pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com
wrote:

Hey Kevin,

I don't blame you for wanting to defend yourself against an
aggressive
dog,
but if they are still 8-12 feet away, are you really in any danger?
I
can't
help but wonder how you're interpreting that they are coming at you
"with
intent to harm"?

8-14 feet for a dog is one stride for most dogs on a run ;)

I'm not saying what you did was wrong, but I agree with Ron that
having
to
pepper spray a dog 3 times in 4 months is a lot, or you have the
worst
luck
ever!

Yeah, totally agree. It's more what Ben said.... up here, remember
that Humboldt County is weed-capital-of-the-world, 99% of people who
have dogs have pits to protect their 'precious goods'.

Middle of last year I had 4 pit bulls come right into our yard, one of
which got an entire 5 oz can of the hottest pepperspay that civis can
buy and it still kept coming. That one, sadly, depending on how you
look at it, did not make it out of my yard. The other three were put
down by the city.


@Ron, I totally hear what you are saying. Up here, every day on the
trail, is like breaching a house - because literally, it does not
matter if you are in a house or out in the backwoods, pits, rots, and
Presa Canario are everywhere - about the only thing not up here are
Doberman Pinschers, for which I am very grateful - as they are the
only dog which I actually fear.

John

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:26:21 -0700
From: Kevin Renfrow <kevinrenfrow at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plane
To: Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
Cc: Gerry Zamora <gerry0625 at gmail.com>, david genny
   <bobbers530 at yahoo.com>,    pct-l at backcountry.net
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Yes, however, it's the TSA who takes extra precautions to track your bag
while being handled by the airlines.

Also, I'm not sure if my previous message preserved the quotes around the
text, but I have never done this myself.

-Kevin

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:

Only problem is it's usually not TSA who loses the luggage.  It's the
airline and their baggage handlers.

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Gerry Zamora
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:41 AM
To: Kevin Cook
Cc: david genny; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plane

Brilliant im doing it just brilliant they always lose my stuff
On Mar 15, 2011 10:36 AM, "Kevin Cook" <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:
That's awesome Kevin!

I'm not flying, but I love that idea. It makes so much sense.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Kevin Renfrow <kevinrenfrow at gmail.com
wrote:

If you're really concerned about your luggage getting lost, just buy a
cheap
starter pistol and put it in your bag.

A "weapons" is defined as a rifle, shotgun, pistol, airgun, and STARTER
PISTOL. Yes, starter pistols - those little guns that fire blanks at
track
and swim meets - are considered weapons...and do NOT have to be
registered
in any state in the United States.
I have a starter pistol for all my cases. All I have to do upon check-in
is
tell the airline ticket agent that I have a weapon to declare...I'm
given
a
little card to sign, the card is put in the case, the case is given to a
TSA
official who takes my key and locks the case, and gives my key back to
me.
That's the procedure. The case is extra-tracked...TSA does not want to
lose
a weapons case. This reduces the chance of the case being lost to
virtually
zero.
It's a great way to travel with camera gear...I've been doing this since
Dec
2001 and have had no problems whatsoever.


Source:



http://lifehacker.com/#!5448014/pack-a-gun-to-protect-valuables-from-airline
-theft-or-loss

-Kevin

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:38 PM, david genny <bobbers530 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know I've asked a lot about flying into San Diego, but we are
getting
so
close now and its crunch time I was just wondering if I could get some
more
helpful opinions.....So I live in Redding Ca about an hour from mt.
shasta
(
btw class of 2011 if we are in the nor cal sections together I should be
able to give rides and whatever else I can do to help out my fellow
hikers
at least from old station until we get close to the oregon border ) but
its
about a 14+hour drive from here so I am thinking of flying into San
Diego
on
April 26th I was wondering if there is anyone on the list that is going
to
be driving from the airport to campo on or around that day? or if you
know
where I can find the ride list, with last minute food stocking and what
not
ive gotten behind on my internet use....also does anyone have an opinion
on
shipping my back pack to campo instead of flying with it, there are some
things I really wanna bring but I know they wont be aloud on an
airplane...alright enough rambling as you can tell im nervous,excited
its
almost time to hit the trail and I cant farkin wait




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:29:43 -0700
From: Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] One person tent
To: jape1 at cox.net
Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I see a lot of folks recommending Big Agnes tents.

I just want to let folks know that I constantly see various BA models on
Steep & Cheap. Might not hurt to watch that site for one if you're in the
market. I think there are websites that will watch for you and send you
alerts based on keywords, such as "Big Agnes" ;)

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, <jape1 at cox.net> wrote:


Under 3 pounds, double wall, around $100 you might look at the tent
reviewed on the URL below

http://www.modernhiker.com/2009/09/15/review-eureka-spitfire-1/

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Sam Griffin <samgriffin4 at gmail.com>




      



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